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cc: Eystein Jansen <>, Christoph Kull <>,,,,
date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 08:59:00 -0400
from: "Michael E. Mann" <>
subject: Re: PAGES/CLIVAR workshop
to: Andrew Weaver <>

I like the idea as well...
Andrew Weaver wrote:

Seems like an excellent and creative idea!

Cheers andrew

this seems very good to me. Since Phil has this
contact I am sure there are no hidden strings


At 11:12 +0200 24-10-05, Christoph Kull wrote:

Dear Andrew, dear Eystein,
While organizing the planned PAGES/CLIVAR workshop on past millennia
variability we asked CLIVAR to financially contribute in a similar way as
already approved by PAGES (10k). Unfortunately, CLIVAR's budget situation
seems to be quite difficult, and therefore CLIVAR isn't able to provide the
expected support. While discussing what to do, Phil Jones brought a
possibility up to discussion that seems to be very promising - Thanks a lot

As seen below, EPRI ( Electric Power Research Institute) could become a
co-organizer. This looks like a really good idea to proceed with the
organization of this event! We therefore would like to inform you about the
development and would like to get some feedback from you as PAGES/CLIVAR
foci leaders in order to afterwards proceed with the event organization.
See the emails below for further information on the planned / suggested EPRI

Please let me know by Wednesday your comments!

All the best, thanks a lot!
Christoph Kull
Science Officer
Sulgeneckstrasse 38
CH-3007 Bern

phone: +4131 312 31 53/33
fax: +4131 312 31 68

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From: "Williams, Larry" [1]<>
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:47:11 -0700
To: [2]<>, [3]<>,
[4]<>, [5]<>, [6]<>,
Cc: [8]<>
Subject: FW: PAGES/CLIVAR workshop


It seems a happy coincidence has happened. With Joel Smith's help I have
been searching for many months for a way support a workshop on climate
variability. Armed with sufficient budget I have been somewhat surprised
at the difficulty of finding scientific talent willing to take on this
task. The main problem has been that there are two significant efforts
going on in this area that have the experts fully engaged. Between the
Fourth Assessment Report of the IPCC and the US Climate Change Science
Program everyone who could contribute to this type of workshop seems to
be fully loaded (burnt out?) and not very interested in yet another set
of meetings.

So when I read over the draft CLIVAR/PAGES Workshop 2006 I was very
pleased to see an agenda that would fit our needs very well. The general
scientific thrust outlined in your draft is right on target. The
additional benefits from our point of view are:
1. excellent scientific leadership
2. excellent proposed attendees (I recognize many-not all-names on
your list)
3. workshop leading to peer-reviewed paper.
4. cosponsorship by other funders-not just EPRI providing the budget

The main additional features that I would like to propose would be:
4. brief report on the workshop (cut and paste from the paper?) with
an emphasis on creating a list of the most important researchable topics
needed to advance the field. The main objective of this report and list
would be to use it as a guide for EPRI in funding follow-on research in
this area. We can discuss this further at some later time.
5. Acknowledgement of Electric Power Research Institute financial
support in the paper and for the meeting.

Let me give you a brief explanation of why we are interested in
supporting your workshop. In the 90's we had a significant component of
climate change science research that we initiated and supported. We had
strong involvement with NCAR through our MECCA project, a major carbon
cycle project (Carbon Cycle Model Linkage Project [CCMLP]-Colin
Prentice, Martin Heiman, Fortunate Joos, and 6 teams of modelers from
Europe and the US--see Section 3.6 of TAR for CCMLP references), the US
based ecosystem (VEMAP I and II) project, and many other worthy science
research efforts. Financial difficulties for the US electric industry
during this period eroded our science budget and these projects
gradually came to an end. Things are looking better now and we want to
get back in the business of supporting excellent climate change science
research. This workshop could be an entry point for us to a new period
of support for good science.

Let me know if EPRI support for your workshop seems feasible from your
point of view. If it does we can discuss the next steps on how to

Best Regards,

Larry Williams

Larry Williams, Ph.D.
Senior Technical Manager Global Climate
Electric Power Research Institute
Office: 650-855-2695
Fax: 650-855-2950
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From: Phil Jones [[11]]
Sent: Wed 10/19/2005 8:13 AM
To: Joel Smith
Cc: Christoph Kull; Keith Briffa; Michael E. Mann; Heinz Wanner;
Thorsten Kiefer
Subject: Re: PAGES/CLIVAR workshop


The workshop outline is attached. As I said on the phone, I'll be
away tomorrow and Friday. PAGES have their support of 10K$ (US)
for this and were hoping CLIVAR could match this. CLIVAR has
come back and told us that their budget situation isn't good at the
moment, and hope for better things later. At the moment
we are wondering whether we will go ahead with a smaller
workshop. These type of meetings need to be arranged some
time in advance because of people's diaries and possible fieldwork
commitments. The timing next June was to take advantage of
another meeting in London, so we could get North Americans and
others slightly cheaper. We also thought the Bernese Oberland in
June would also tempt people, together with the excellent list of
people we'd put together.

Only the organizing committee (this email list) know of the
as we've not approached the majority of the list to check

Email Christoph and the others if you're interested. I'm sure
can be changed somewhat, but the main thrust is model/data comparisons
with respect to past variability. Emphasis would be on temperature,
we'd also look at variability of features such as ENSO, the NAO etc.
all been to many meetings and know that numbers of 20-30 work best,
along with lots of discussion and relatively few presentations.

Best Regards


Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email [12]

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