Monday, January 16, 2012


date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:59:53 +0200
from: Frank Oldfield <>
subject: Re: the ghost of futures past
to: "Michael E. Mann" <>

Hi Mike,

Not sure if your reply implied you were taking my points seriously or not -
I'm not even sure if Ray sent them on to you or you just received his
reply! My reactions to the graphs on the website are that the temperature
one does not address my points (but it does not aim to and I fully agree
that if the projections are sufficiently reliable it hardly needs to!),
that P/E is likely to be much more important than temperature per se and
that the historical sea-level curve is not really acceptable - very much
more high resolution work needs to be done on that before we have any real
sense of past variability on decadal to century timescales.



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