Wednesday, January 18, 2012


cc: "Briffa Keith Prof \(ENV\)" <>, Phil Jones <>
date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:10:03 +0100
from: Tim Osborn <>
subject: Re: FW: Schweingruber Series [FOI_08-50]
to: "Palmer Dave Mr \(LIB\)" <>

well, hope you had a good time, Dave!

I'll talk with Keith to see what we have on this topic.

I do know that I didn't send any data or information directly to Mike
Mann for the work that Stephen McIntyre discusses. I expect (though
I don't "know") that Mann obtained the data from Scott Rutherford, to
whom we did send some data and information for an earlier study. The
information (but not the data) sent to Rutherford for this earlier
study is already described on my webpage:
under the subsection Rutherford et al. (2005, Journal of Climate).

Given that I don't know for sure that the data Mann used are
identical to the data that we hold and sent to Rutherford, I'm not
sure whether we are obliged to search our files to see if we can find
the data than were sent to Rutherford? Of course, if we tell
McIntyre this, he'll just submit an FOI for the data we sent
Rutherford. It was about 6 years ago, so I'm not sure I'd be able to
identify the files for sure anyway.


At 11:00 22/09/2008, Palmer Dave Mr \(LIB\) wrote:
>Just got back from hols and picked this up - unfortunately, in all
>the email I receive, my cover for my FOI duties didn't pick this one
>up... Have any of you responded to Mr. McIntyre directly as yet in any way?
>I will provide the appropriate acknowledgement of the request -
>deadline is 8 October....
>Cheers, Dave
>From: Steve McIntyre []
>Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 3:55 AM
>To: Palmer Dave Mr (LIB)
>Cc: Osborn Timothy Dr (ENV); Briffa Keith Prof (ENV)
>Subject: Schweingruber Series
>Dear Mr Palmer,
>In the Supporting Information to Mann et al (PNAS 2008), in
>, a number of "Schweingruber" series are listed, with nomenclature
>such as schweingruber_mxdabd_grid11, which I presume were provided
>by Keith Briffa or Tim Osborn of the UEA.
>Pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act and/or Environmental
>Information REgulations, whichever is aplicable, would you please
>provide me with a digital version of these data sets in the form
>provided to Dr Mann, together with any relevant meta-data, manuals
>or literature describing the grid locations of the series and the
>method of their calculation.
>Thank you for your attention,
>Stephen McIntyre

Dr Timothy J Osborn, Academic Fellow
Climatic Research Unit
School of Environmental Sciences
University of East Anglia
Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK

phone: +44 1603 592089
fax: +44 1603 507784


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