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cc: "Clare Goodess" <>,
date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:47:04 +0100 (BST)
subject: Re: Fwd: Meeting Agenda - 21st May
to: "Phil Jones" <>

I meant the new UHI simulations with mosaic land tiling and urban heat
emissions that Richard Betts will perform for SCORCHIO.


> Clare, Colin,
> As far as I understand the new HadRM3 runs are transient runs (17 in
> all)
> using perturbed physics. I can probably find out by emailing Dave
> Sexton.
> I am away on May 21 - in Schipol with Keith/Dimitrios for the day
> Cheers
> Phil
> At 16:23 11/05/2007, Clare Goodess wrote:
>>This is the technical SCORCHIO meeting. Phil I don't think you're
>>available to go. I am definitely going. Would it be a good for Colin
>>to go too if he is available?
>>CRU's input will really start once we have outputs from the new
>>HadRM3 simulations. The timetable for these will be discussed at the
>>meeting, but my understanding is that these are likely to take place
>>somewhat later than originally planned in order to allow better
>>specification of boundary conditions - particularly the urban heat
>> sources.
>>Please could you let me know if you have any thoughts about any of
>>the agenda items.
>>Outputs required to run the BETWIXT WG is straightforward (i.e. we
>>know the variables and time resolution needed).
>>But the question of spatial scales needs some
>>thought/discussion. The weather generator can be run for any of the
>>city stations for which we have enough observed data - and then the
>>Manchester team could do the spatial extrapolation from these
>>sites. And/or we could also work with spatially-interpolated
>>gridded parameters to start with (how appropriate are those produced
>>for UKCIP08?). Maybe both approaches will have to be tested.
>>I think there is also an issue to do with consistency of the UKCIP08
>>scenarios and the planned HadMR3 UHI simulations. Is it possible,
>>for example, to isolate the 'anthropogenic urban' forcing effect
>>from the latter simulations and then add that to the UKCIP08
>>scenario perturbations? We probably can't answer a lot of the
>>questions until we have results to play with. But the question now
>>is, do we have any suggestions as to which greenhouse gas emissions
>>scenario is used for the HadRM3 simulations. The BETWIXT HadCM3
>>simulations used 1xCO2 and 2xCO2. Should the new simulations stick
>>with this (I don't think they will be transient runs) or use
>>something more comparable to A1B say?
>>And please let me/Claire know if there are additional items you
>>think should be on the agenda (though bear in mind this is only a 2
>>hour meeting!).
>>Best wishes, Clare
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>>>Subject: Meeting Agenda - 21st May
>>>Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 08:56:56 +0100
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>>>Dear all
>>>I have booked a room for us at the MRC head office in London
>>>between 2 and 4 pm on May 21st (
>>> to discuss in more
>>>detail how the various work packages feed into one another. I have
>>>attached a short agenda, but feel free to let me know if you want
>>>to include anything else on it.
>>>John, Stuart, I have included you on the email but don't worry if
>>>you are unable to make it.
>>>School of Mechanical, Aerospace and Civil Eng.
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>>Dr Clare Goodess
>>Climatic Research Unit
>>School of Environmental Sciences
>>University of East Anglia
>>NR4 7TJ
>>Tel: +44 -1603 592875
>>Fax: +44 -1603 507784
> Prof. Phil Jones
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> School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
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