Wednesday, March 14, 2012

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cc: Tom Wigley <wigleyatXYZxyzr.edu>,"Thomas.R.Karl" <Thomas.R.KarlatXYZxyza.gov>, John.LanzanteatXYZxyza.gov,"David C. Bader" <bader2atXYZxyzl.gov>, "'Dian J. Seidel'" <dian.seidelatXYZxyza.gov>, "'Francis W. Zwiers'" <francis.zwiersatXYZxyzgc.ca>, Frank Wentz <frank.wentzatXYZxyzss.com>,Karl Taylor <taylor13atXYZxyzl.gov>, Leopold Haimberger <leopold.haimbergeratXYZxyzvie.ac.at>, Melissa Free <Melissa.FreeatXYZxyza.gov>, "Michael C. MacCracken" <mmaccracatXYZxyzcast.net>, "'Philip D. Jones'" <p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk>, Sherwood Steven <steven.sherwoodatXYZxyze.edu>, Steve Klein <klein21atXYZxyzl.gov>, "Thorne, Peter" <peter.thorneatXYZxyzoffice.gov.uk>, Tim Osborn <t.osbornatXYZxyz.ac.uk>,Tom Wigley <wigleyatXYZxyz.ucar.edu>, myles <m.allen1atXYZxyzsics.ox.ac.uk>,Bill Fulkerson <wfulk@utk.edu>
date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:53:02 -0800
from: carl mears <mearsatXYZxyzss.com>
subject: Re: Douglass et al. paper
to: santer1atXYZxyzl.gov,Susan Solomon <Susan.SolomonatXYZxyza.gov>

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Hi All

GRL just published our paper on correlations between MSU/AMSU tropospheric
temperatures
and total column water vaper over the tropical oceans (attached). One more
piece of evidence
that models and observations are not completely out to lunch.

Depending on where your faith lies, this paper either

1. Uses observed data to validate the water vapor/temperature
scaling in models.

or......

2. Uses the robust vapor/temperature scaling from models to
suggest that large errors
are not present in either of the most recent MSU/AMSU TLT
products.

I'm something of an agnostic when it comes to both models and data, so my
view of it lies
somewhere on the continuum between these two statements.

-Carl

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