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cc: Manola Brunet-India <>, Enric Aguilar <>
date: Wed Feb 25 11:53:56 2004
from: Phil Jones <>
subject: Fwd: Re: C & northern S. American workshop
to: Thomas C Peterson <>

Dear Tom,
Back from a sunny Tarragona. Both Manola and Enric are very happy about being
involved in the northern S. American workshop. So it would seem best to add their
emails in future exchanges about the meeting. I said I expected the meeting to take
place in the late autumn. Most of their teaching commitments take place between Feb and

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:24:47 -0600
From: Patricia Ramirez Obando <>
Subject: Re: C & northern S. American workshop
To: Thomas C Peterson <>
Cc: Francisco Guerrero <>,
Mauricio Rosales <>,
Javier Garcia Romano <>, Phil Jones <>,
Michael Taylor - UWI Jamaica <>,
Albert Martis <>
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Dear Tom,|

Thanks for your quick reaction and for including Phil, Albert and Michael; fom now on I
will include also, Mauricio Rosales (Nicaragua's NWS Director), Javier Garcia (INETER's
Director General Advisor) and Francisco Guerrero (Climate Aplications Unit), who are
already aware about the idea and have expressed INETER's willingness to host the

Let me react to your comments:
Funding in fact is tight; based on our experiennce organizing meetings in the Region,
average cost of participants from Central America or Mexico in a 5 days event is around
$1400 including air ticket, lodging, meals and terminal expenses, or 1450 if you include
insurance. Participants from Vemezuela, Guyana or Colombia could cost around $2000.
Once we have the exact dates, I am sure our colleagues in Nicaragua will help us
finding the best deal in lodging and meal services but to be in the safe side, these are
the numbers we should use for budgeting.

Language is an issue we have to think about carefully since that amount limits the
posibilities for interpretation (Dayly cost for interpretation in Managua is around
$800, including interpreters and equipment) . Most of the potential participants have
spanish as mother tongue, Spanish then seems to be the logical language for the
workshop, provided instructors could speak the language too; however, we have to
consider that it will be a limiting factor for participants from Guyana and Belize.On
the other hand, have English as workshop's language may signify a serious limitation to
have the right persons participating , since even if many colleagues in our region can
comunicate in English, their comand in the language is not enough as to follow a week
instruction in it, but we can check with the potential participants.

I agree in having the organizing Commitee small in order to easier decisions, so from
our part it will be only a person from INETER and myself.

I think facilities in INETER are adecuate, however I would like to ask them to describe
them for you.

That's it for the moment,


Patricia Ramirez, M.Sc.
Directora de Proyectos en Meteorolog�a y Clima
Comit� Regional de Recursos Hidr�ulicos del Itsmo Centroamericann (CRRH/SICA)
Tel: (506) 231 5791 ext 102
Fax: (506) 296 0047

Fax: (506) 296 0047

Apdo 1527- 1200
Pavas, Costa Rica

----- Original Message -----
From: [2]Thomas C Peterson
To: [3]Patricia Ramirez Obando
Cc: [4]Albert Martis ; [5]Michael Taylor - UWI Jamaica ; [6]Phil Jones
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:20 PM
Subject: C & northern S. American workshop
Dear Patricia -
Thank you very much for your encouraging words. They sound firm enough that I
thought I should expand the recipient list to include:
- Phil Jones who is part of the Expert Team on Climate Change Detection, Monitoring
and Indices and is interested in participating in the workshop.
- Albert Martis whom we've discussed the workshop with for some time.
- And Michael Taylor from the UWI who hosted the previous workshop in the Caribbean
who not only has insights from the past workshop but has expressed an interest in
this workshop as well (he and I have been exchanging emails on it).
There are plenty of specific details we should discuss:
First off, funding and overhead that you mentioned. At US$40K, our funding will be
tight enough that we probably can't invite everyone we would like. Your institution
charging 10% overhead will make that somewhat tighter. But that is still a smaller
overhead than I could have found here in the U.S. So I don't anticipate that being
a serious problem as long as we recognize it up front.
Dates: Do you have any dates you would recommend? The southern South American
workshop is planned to last for 5 & 1/2 days.
Facilities: Will the facilities at INETER ([7] be
adequate? Could you describe them a bit for us?
Including Mexico: Since you recommended including them, that is fine with me.
Conference language: As someone who speaks only English and FORTRAN, I'm always in
awe of multi-linguists. Of the people you thought might be appropriate to invite,
how many also speak English?
Organizing committee: How big would be appropriate (the southern South American
workshop only has 3 of us on the committee)? Among the appropriate people include,
I say all or most (if some are too busy) of those cc'd. Plus someone from INETER?
Also Lucie Vincent of Canada has expressed a strong interest in helping and
Environment Canada has offered to pay part of her expense.
I think that's enough questions for now. Comments from anyone would be appreciated.
Warm regards,
Patricia Ramirez Obando wrote:

Dear Tom,

Sorry, wrong key and the message went unfinished. Here I go again.

Thanks for your message. I think we met in AR IV-RCC meeting in Miami.

Regarding the regional cliamte workshop I am now in position to confirm you that our
organization , CRRH, as the regional organization in Central America asigned by the
governments with the task of coordinate all activities related with weather, climate
and water resources, is interested in become the organizer.

CRRH and its member organizations in 7 countries in Central America has climate
change as one of its working areas, many of us have been involved or contributed to
regional information gathering fo IPCC s SAR and TAR processes. Because of the work
the organization had develop in the Region for 35 years we certainly know the
weather services, climate and climate change commnunities, and therefore we are in
good position to help identify people to invite and data availability in the
different countries; also we have good experience working in the organization of
this type of trainning events and workshops with NOAA, WMO, IAI, IDA, OAS, among

As regional organizers we can take care of invitations, travel and local
organization and all administrative management necessary, however the organization
charge a 10 % overhead over the moneys managed through it.

Regarding the place for the Wshp, the Instituto Nicaraguense de Estudios
Territoriales (INETER), that host the National Weather Service, had expressed their
willingness to be hold it. The dates however we may have to adjust them a little,
due to other important events in the Region already programed.

Referent to the countries if resources allow it , we would like to suggest to
inlcude Mexico, since we have a good working relation with the group working in
climate change in the National Weather Service who are those who have long term

Hoping to have the oppportunity to go further with this iniciative, I remain at your
disposal for any question or doubt you may have.


Patricia Ramirez, M.Sc.
Directora de Poryectos en Meteorolog�a y Clima
Comit� Regional de Recursos Hidr�ulicos del Itsmo Centroamericann (CRRH/SICA)
Tel: (506) 231 5791 ext 102
Fax: (506) 296 0047

Fax: (506) 296 0047

Apdo 1527- 1200
Pavas, Costa Rica

----- Original Message -----
From: [9]Thomas C Peterson
To: [10]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: Regional Climate Change Workshops Update
Dear Patricia,
I used an on-line translator (see below in case you're curious) to understand what
you wrote Albert as I only speak English and FORTRAN. I don't remember whether
we've met, but I do remember hearing you give an excellent talk a few years ago in
This web site provide a link to some information on the regional climate change
workshops. We've held on in the Caribbean a few years ago and are well on our way
to organizing one in Brazil in August hosted by Luiz Molion. The one in Brazil will
include the countries from Brazil, Peru, and Ecuador south. The workshop we had
discussed with Albert (who attended the Caribbean workshop) would be for French
Guiana to Columbia and north to Guatemala. We didn't include Belize because they
participated in the Caribbean workshop. And we didn't include Mexico (though this
is open to discussion) because they have other collaboration with the US which
should be a different route to get the same analysis accomplished.
The plan is for an approximately one week workshop where individuals bring long-term
daily station data with them. The workshop is about half seminars on climate
change, data quality control, data homogeneity, etc. and half hands-on analysis of
indices of extremes derived from the data. In the Caribbean workshop we found some
people who didn't trust their data because it showed a sudden jump in 1976, started
trusting them when they found the island to both the north and south of them showing
the same exact feature. So it really helps to have a group of countries together.
The end product would be a result of careful post workshop analysis of the time
series and include an article on changes in extremes for the region (the web page
above can take you to the paper from the Caribbean workshop) and have those results
fit into a global analysis contributing to the next IPCC assessment. We hope that
all of the derived indices will be able to be released and at least some of the
station data (that is a good side benefit but not a requirement).
I mention "we" a lot. Primarily I'm talking about the joint CCl/CLIVAR Expert Team
on Climate Change Detection, Monitoring and Indices. For this workshop, the ET
person chosen to help organize it is Phil Jones. I am not a member of that team,
but I am chair of the OPAG they report to. Also, I'm the individual responsible for
the funding that can be used to support the workshop, so too would be involved. We
have US$40,000 put aside for the workshop and $10,000 for post workshop analysis
(probably by me at my instituion, though that isn't certain).
The local host would be expected to be able to line up a room for participants to
meet in. It would not require internet access but computers would be helpful as
this is hands-on. However, enough participants may be able to bring laptops that
this won't be a problem (we only need one computer for every 2 or 3 participants as
the work seems to be done best in teams). The local host would also line up hotel
accomodations. While not required, ideally we'd like a host who (1) knows the
appropriate people from the region to invite, (2) is willing to make the person to
person contact involved in inviting the people and making sure they will be able to
bring data with them, (3) is working in an institution where holding such a workshop
would be seen as valued part of their mission rather than as one more task to
distract them from their true calling, and (4) would be able to take in $40,000 from
GCOS and pay hotel bills, purchase plane tickets, etc. for the participants. These
latter items are the ideal and we can work around any problems one way or another.
But we really want to involve local hosts who think that this work -- helping
improve regional climate change analyses and getting their regional change
documented in IPCC -- is important and worthwhile.
I've probably wrote more than I should have, but I wanted to be able to answer your
most important questions in one pass. Do you have any questions that this didn't
Do you think this would be an interesting project to get involved in?
Tom Peterson
Valued Martin,
If we would have interest to organize the regional workshop on change
climatic for Mesoamerica. I did consultations and the Nicaraguan Institute of
Territorial studies of Nicaragua (UNETHER) it would be interested in being
host, only they wanted to know that it would have to assume commitments
institution hostess and on everything that type of facility of team of
I calculate, communications and access to Internet would have to have the place for
the Workshop.
I stay in expectation of your response,
Many greetings
Albert Martis wrote:

Much�sima gracias Particia por tu esfuerzos.

Te voy a poner en contacto con Tom Peterson de NCDC (organizador de el
El tambi�n estaba en Miami durante e meeting de los Expertos Climatol�gicos.
Si hay una manera que te puedo ayudar lo har� con mucho gusto.
Dear Tom,
I have got excellent news from Particia de CRRH.
She will explain the details to you.
-----Original Message-----
From: [12] [[13]]
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:52 AM
To: Albert Martis
Subject: Re: Regional Climate Change Workshops Update
Apreciado Martin,
Si tendriamos interes en organizar el taller regional sobre cambio
climatico para Mesoamerica. Hice consultas y el Instituto Nicaraguense de
Estudios Territoriales de Nicaragua (INETER) estaria interesado en ser
anfitrion, solo quisieran saber que compromisos tendria que asumir la
institucion anfitriona y sobre todo que tipo de facilidades de equipo de
computo,comunicaciones y acceso a internet tendria que tener el lugar para
el Taller.
Quedo a la espera de tu respuesta,
Muchos saludos
Patricia Ramirez O. , MSc.
Directora de Proyectos en Meteorolog�a y Clima
Comit� Regional de Recursos Hidr�ulicos del Itsmo Centroamericano (CRRH)
Sistema de Integraci�n Centroamericano (SICA)
Tel: 506 231 5791 ext 102
Fax: 506 296 0047
Podrias ----- Original Message -----
From: "Albert Martis" [16]<>
To: [17]<>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:39 PM
Subject: FW: Regional Climate Change Workshops Update

-----Original Message-----

From: Thomas C Peterson [[18]]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 11:48 AM
To: Francis Zwiers; [19] Zhongwei Yan - CLIVAR; Valery
Detemmerman; Paul Llanso - WMO; Howard Diamond; Alan R Thomas; Hassan
Virji - START; Mike Manton; Luiz Molion; David Karoly; Phil Jones;
Albert Martis; Byron Gleason; Lisa Alexander; Bruce Hewitson
Subject: Regional Climate Change Workshops Update
I know many people are interested in encouraging the regional climate
change workshops so I thought I should send out a quick update on the
status of upcoming regional climate change workshops linked to the
CCl/CLIVAR ETCCDMI. To the best of my current understanding, we have
three workshops where firm planning is underway:
1. Southern Africa
Date: 31 May - 4 June, 2004
Host and organizer: Bruce Hewitson, University of Capetown
Probable additional technical support from, Ive heard, Lisa Alexander
Countries to be included: I believe there is not a firm list but is
rather somewhat flexible based partly on availability of data
For more information see his web page:
2. Southern South America
Date: August 9-14, 2004
Host: Luiz Molion, Universidade Federal de Alagoas, Alagoas, Brazil
Organizing Committee: Luiz Molion, David Karoly and Tom Peterson
Probable additional technical support from Malcolm Haylock
Countries to be included: Ecuador, Peru, Brazil, Bolivia, Paraguay,
Uruguay, Argentina and Chile
3. Central America and northern South America
Date: October 25-29, 2004 (dates just finalized today; these are after
the hurricane season and before the tourist season raises hotel prices)
Host: Albert Martis, Meteorological Service Netherlands Antilles &
Aruba, Cura�ao, Netherlands Antilles
Organizing Committee: Albert Martis, Phil Jones, Tom Peterson
Probable additional technical support from Bryon Gleason.
Countries to be included: French Guiana, Suriname, Guyana, Venezuela,
Columbia, Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Honduras and
Guatemala. Belize is excluded because they participated in the Caribbean
workshop. Mexico is under consideration.
Depending on funding, two additional workshops are also being discussed:
4. Southwestern Asia
Tentative date: May 2005
Host: Serhat Sensoy, Turkish State Met. Service, Kalaba /Ankara, Turkey
5. Asian Plateau and surrounding countries
Plans for these latter two workshops are not well developed as the focus
has been on the first three and, indeed, we should probably make sure
the first three are well on their way before seriously addressing
additional workshops. Given what I know about current and
tentative/potential support from a variety of sources (e.g., START,
CLIVAR, WMO, U.S. State Department), the first three workshops should be
able to become realities. If we can be careful with our resources and
acquire moderate additional support for this series of workshops, I'm
hopeful that well be able to support at least a 4th workshop as well.
Synthesis: In addition to each workshop producing an article describing
regional changes in extreme indices, Lisa Alexander is planning a global
indices article that will include the results of these workshops along
with other data analysis, in time for the next IPCC.
Software: Byron Gleason is planning an update to CLIMDEX. His planned
changes sound very helpful.
That's the current status to the best of my understanding. It sounds
pretty exciting to me: plenty of interesting and worth while working
ahead of us.
Best wishes,

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email

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