Sunday, March 18, 2012


cc: "Timothy L. Grove" <>
date: Mon Sep 7 10:13:11 2009
from: Phil Jones <>
subject: Re: AGU and Dr. P. Jones (fwd)
to: Alan Robock <>

Tim, Alan,
I said I would send a brief reply when I got back. Alan is right to ignore these sorts
of letters. I'm afraid I have become less responsive to the public over the years, but
this has been as a result of continuous defamatory remarks on a number of blog sites. I
have tried in the past discussing via email with a few of these people, but it is just a
time wasting exercise. Many of the papers I'd been sending them have been published in JGR
and one in Reviews of Geophysics.
I recall giving lectures in the past when there would be one person who would disagree
with something or all I said in an invited talk. The internet has allowed all these people
to find one another unfortunately. Some
of the emails are quite spiteful, but as yet not as bad as some of the things that have
been said ot written about Ben Santer and Mike Mann.
In the UK the head of the Natural Environment Research Council tried engaging with
these people a couple of years ago, but gave up as it was just the deniers that responded.
If you look at the Nature site, that Olive Heffernan set up, after the piece about a month
ago, almost all of the responders were deniers.
I've given up trying to engage them. I know I should persevere, but I just don't have
the time.
At 13:11 03/09/2009, Alan Robock wrote:

Dear Phil,
We're always on holiday here in Jersey!
Since the letter was to me, I have decided, with the concurrence of others at AGU, to
ignore it and not reply.
You, Mike Mann, and Ben Santer should form a club.
Alan Robock, Professor II
Director, Meteorology Undergraduate Program
Associate Director, Center for Environmental Prediction
Department of Environmental Sciences Phone: +1-732-932-9800 x6222
Rutgers University Fax: +1-732-932-8644
14 College Farm Road E-mail:
New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8551 USA [1]
On Thu, 3 Sep 2009, wrote:

Alan,> Dear Tim,
On holiday in Jersey. Have found a wifi connection
Will get back to you when back at UEA.
Getting fed up with all these skeptics.
You've only seen the tip of the iceberg!

This is part of a coordinated attack by global warming deniers on Phil
and other climate scientists. To get a flavor of it, see the recent
article in Nature at
<[2]>, reproduced
Since the writer is not a member of AGU, I recommend that we just ignore
the letter, so it doesn't waste any more of our time as well as Phil's.
If he wants to submit it to EOS, he should use the formal process and
not expect us to do it for him.
Alan Robock, Professor II
Director, Meteorology Undergraduate Program
Associate Director, Center for Environmental Prediction
Department of Environmental Sciences Phone: +1-732-932-9800 x6222
Rutgers University Fax: +1-732-932-8644
14 College Farm Road E-mail:
New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8551 USA [3]
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:03:46 +0100
From: Rupert Wyndham <>
Subject: AGU and Dr. P. Jones
Please be advised that the letter attached has today been airmailed to
Yours truly
RCE Wyndham
Published online 12 August 2009 | Nature 460, 787 (2009) |
Nature News
Climate data spat intensifies
Growing demands for access to information swamp scientist.
Olive Heffernan
A leading UK climatologist is being inundated by
freedom-of-information-act requests to make raw climate data publicly
available, leading to a renewed row over data access.
Since 2002, Steve McIntyre, the editor of Climate Audit, a blog that
investigates the statistical methods used in climate science, has
repeatedly asked Phil Jones, director of the Climatic Research Unit
(CRU) at the University of East Anglia, UK, for access to monthly global
surface temperature data held by the institute. But in recent weeks,
Jones has been swamped by a sudden surge in demands for data.
Several organizations worldwide collect and report global average
temperature data for each month. Of these, a temperature data set held
jointly by CRU and the UK Met Office's Hadley Centre in Exeter, known as
HadCRU, extends back the farthest, beginning in 1850. Although these
data are made available in a processed format that shows the global
trend, access to the raw data is restricted to academics.
Between 24 July and 29 July of this year, CRU received 58
freedom-of-information-act requests from McIntyre and people affiliated
with Climate Audit, requesting access to the data or information about
their use. In the past month, the UK Met Office, which receives a
cleaned-up version of the raw data from CRU, has received ten requests
of its own.
McIntyre, based in Toronto, Ontario, is best known for questioning the
validity of the statistical analyses used to reconstruct the past 1,000
years of climate, but has more recently turned his attention to
criticizing the quality of global temperature records. Jones concedes
that raw climate data have imperfections such as duplication of
stations but says that such minor errors would not alter the overall
global temperature trend. McIntyre insists that he is not interested in
challenging the science of climate change or in nit-picking, but is
simply asking that the data be made available. "The only policy I want
people to change is their data-access policy," he says.
Jones says he can't fulfil the requests because of confidentiality
agreements signed in the 1990s with some nations, including Spain,
Germany, Bahrain and Norway, that restrict the data to academic use. In
some cases, says Jones, the agreements were made verbally, and in others
the written records were mislaid during a move.
He says he is now working to make the data publicly available online. As
Nature went to press, Jones was expected to post a statement on the CRU
website to that effect, including any existing confidentiality
agreements. Jones says any such data release "needs to be done in a
systematic way".
"We're trying to make them all available," says Jones. "We're consulting
with all the meteorological services about 150 members [of the World
Meteorological Organization] and will ask them if they are happy to
release the data." A spokesperson for the Met Office confirmed this,
saying "we are happy for CRU to take the lead on this, as they are their
But getting the all-clear from other nations won't be without its
challenges, says Jones, who estimates that it could take several months.
In addition, some nations may object if they make money by selling their
wind, sunshine and precipitation data.
The dispute is likely to continue for some time. McIntyre is especially
aggrieved that Peter Webster, a hurricane expert at the Georgia
Institute of Technology in Atlanta, was recently provided with data that
had been refused to him.
Webster says his team was given the station data for a very specific
request that will result in a joint publication with Jones. "Reasonable
requests should be fulfilled because making data available advances
science," says Webster, "but it has to be an authentic request because
otherwise you'd be swamped."
Indeed, Jones says he has become "markedly less responsive to the public
over the past few years as a result of this".

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email

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