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date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:46:00 -0000
from: "Prof B.E. Launder" <>
subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: (Fwd) Climate Change/ Environmental Issues
to: Mike Hulme <>


To respond to your second-paragraph query, Mia began by asking
for someone to go against Professor Stott but, I guess, picking up
the vibes I put out in my last note to her, she has broadened her
possible list of topics. Frankly, I wouldn't myself want to take a
strongly 'anti' position on any of the power options whether it be
nuclear or even fossil-fuel (because, in the latter case, carbon
sequestration offers interesting prospects especially if bolted onto
coal-fired power). So, I would have thought that the Tyndall Centre
would have most to contribute (and to gain) from an articulate
response to Professor Stott.


Date sent: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:01:38 +0000


From: Mike Hulme <<>

Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: (Fwd) Climate Change/ Environmental Issues

Copies to:

<FontFamily><param>Times New Roman</param><bigger>Brian,

Yes, indeed, Professor Stott is known to me and I have had a
couple of radio debates with him in the past. His expertise is
biogeography, although he seems to have made a reputation for
himself (amongst the media, not the scientists) in disputing the
credibility of climate models

I will give this some thought and discuss with Asher; by the way,
the last email from Mia seemed to be looking for an anti-fossil or
an anti-nuclear speaker from Tyndall rather than someone to
debate with Stott - or have I mis-read?


At 17:41 18/02/03 +0000, you wrote:


Here's a succession of emails exchanged between Mia
Nybrant at 
</color>the Scientific Alliance (SA) and myself. While I've
attached most of them, hopefully just her latest with this
commentary will be sufficient for you to be able to
respond. The SA is holding a 1-day discussion at the Royal
Institution just a couple of weeks before our event. Though
the underlying motivation for their event is somewhat
similar to ours it is much broader in its coverage as it's a
whole-day affair); I attach the outline programme that she
sent up with her original email. 

Anyway, around her third email she asked if the Tyndall
Centre could contribute a speaker. I quizzed her as to the
role and as you will see from her latest message she wants
to have someone to go head-to-head against Professor
Stott, who I gather does not believe in global warming. It
seems to me that what is best needed to counter his
arguments would be a real expert in the science. Since that
isn't really Tyndall North's area I thought I'd check with
you whether anyone at UEA would seem just right. Simon
(who is simply unavailable on May 6th) commented to me
that Stott is a pretty tricky and slippery debater so one
would want to be confident that Tyndall could go in with a
fire-proof case. 

I look forward to your thoughts, 

<color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>------- Forwarded message follows ------</color>
Dear Brian 
Many thanks. The opening session on "CO2 reduction
policy" will focus on 
the observational science. We expect Professor Stott to
outline some of the 
difficulties associated with the prediction of climate change
including a 
discussion of data collection and computer modelling. We
are looking for a 
counterpart speaker to present the case for confidence in
climate change 
data and computer modelling. 
The later sessions on renewables, fossil fuels and nuclear
will address the 
engineering strategies available to achieve CO2 emission
reductions. We are 
still looking for speakers to present "The case against
nuclear energy: risk 
vs. reward" and "The case against fossil fuels" and would
be happy if the 
Tyndell Centre would prefer to put forward a speaker for
one of these 
session in preference to "The science behind the policy of
CO2 reduction". 
I look forward to hearing from you 
Kindest regards 
----- Original Message ----- 
> Mia: 
> I'm forwarding your invitation to some of my colleagues
to invite 
> their input (to me) on who at the Tyndall Centre might
best be able 
> to contribute to your meeting. The question of CO2
reduction is 
> such a big field and it may be necessary to learn the
angle or 
> specialty area of Professor Stott before deciding who
would best 
> complement his talk. Is he concerned with the
> science of CO2 growth and the environmental impacts;
or is he into 
> the engineering/economic strategies for alleviating the
problem? It 
> is this last aspect that Tyndall North is especially focused
> Brian Launder 
> > Dear Professor Launder 
> > Thank you very much for forwarding the information to
> > officer and for providing publicity for our event. We
will do our 
utmost to 
> > return the favour. I will send you copies of the
brochure when it is 
> > which will have the price and details of speakers etc on
it (let's 
> > nearer the time how many copies you would like). 
> > However, some of the speakers so far are Professor
Phillip Stott, 
> > of London, speaking in the session on CO2 Reduction
Policy; Phillip 
> > Renewable Power Association speaking on
Renewables; and Dr Nick Riley, 
> > British Geological Survey on Fossil Fuels. 
> > I would like to invite you, or appropriate colleague, to
speak on the 
> > session on CO2 Reduction Policy and debate the issue
with Professor 
> > This would include 15-20 minutes presentation followed
directly by a 
> > Q&A and a more general Panel Discussion at the end
of the day. 
> > 
> > Please do not hesitate to call me on 020 7484 5094 or
email me with any 
> > queries you may have. I look forward to hearing from
> > 
> > Kindest regards 
> > 
> > Mia 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Prof B.E. Launder"
> > To: "Mia Nybrant" <<mianybrant@scientific-> 
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 9:21 AM 
> > Subject: Re: (Fwd) Climate Change/ Environmental
> > 
> > 
> > > Dear Ms Nybrant: 
> > > 
> > > Thanks for getting back in touch with me. I will
forward your email 
> > > and its attachment to our communications officer
requesting that 
> > > he should alert the Tyndall Community to your 1-day
debate. I've 
> > > marked the date in my diary in the hope that I will be
able to attend 
> > > myself. It would be good to know the names of
speakers. Are 
> > > these nearly ready to be disclosed? Also, we would
want to know 
> > > of any charges for participating in "Powering the
UK's Future". With 
> > > this extra information we'll be happy to give your
event all the 
> > > publicity we can. 
> > > 
> > > Best wishes, 
> > > 
> > > Brian Launder 
> > > 
> > >
> > > > Dear Professor Launder 

> > > > Many thanks for your email and I am sorry for the
slight delay in my 
> > > > response. We would be delighted to forward any
information about 
> > > > debate to our members, as well as posting the
details on our 

> > > > We are organising a conference on 6 May at the
Royal Institution 
> > entitled 
> > > > "2020 Vision -Powering the UK's Future". The
aim is to outline the 
> > > > scientific arguments for and against a policy of
CO2 reductions and, 
> > the 
> > > > light of the Government's Energy White Paper, to
discuss what role 
> > different 
> > > > forms of energy supply can contribute toward this
goal. I have 
> > a 
> > > > draft outline of the conference for your information
and I would be 
> > > > interested to hear your comments on it. Please
also let me know if 
> > have 
> > > > any suggestions for speakers. 

> > <underline><color><param>0000,0000,FF00</param>http://www.scientific-</

> > > > Kindest regards 
> > > > Mia Nybrant 
> > > > Development Director 
> > > > The Scientific Alliance 
> > > > Golden Cross House 
> > > > 8 Duncannon Street 
> > > > London WC2N 4JF 
> > > > Tel: 020 7484 5094 
> > > > Fax: 020 7484 5100 
> > > > <underline><color><param>0000,0000,FF00</param></underline></color> 
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Prof B. E. Launder, FRS, FREng
Regional Director, Tyndall North
Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research
UMIST, PO Box 88,
Manchester M60 1QD, UK

Tel: 44-(0)161-200-3701

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