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cc: p.jones@uea.ac.uk, k.briffa@uea.ac.uk, mann@psu.edu, wanner@giub.unibe.ch, thorsten.kieferatXYZxyzes.unibe.ch
date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 05:53:43 -0700
from: Andrew Weaver <weaveratXYZxyzc.ca>
subject: Re: PAGES/CLIVAR workshop
to: Eystein Jansen <Eystein.JansenatXYZxyz.uib.no>, Christoph Kull <christoph.kullatXYZxyzes.unibe.ch>

Seems like an excellent and creative idea!

Cheers andrew


> Hi,
> this seems very good to me. Since Phil has this
> contact I am sure there are no hidden strings
> associated.
>
> Eystein
>
>
> At 11:12 +0200 24-10-05, Christoph Kull wrote:
>> Dear Andrew, dear Eystein,
>> While organizing the planned PAGES/CLIVAR workshop on past millennia
>> variability we asked CLIVAR to financially contribute in a similar way as
>> already approved by PAGES (10k). Unfortunately, CLIVAR's budget situation
>> seems to be quite difficult, and therefore CLIVAR isn't able to provide the
>> expected support. While discussing what to do, Phil Jones brought a
>> possibility up to discussion that seems to be very promising - Thanks a lot
>> Phil!!!
>>
>> As seen below, EPRI ( Electric Power Research Institute) could become a
>> co-organizer. This looks like a really good idea to proceed with the
>> organization of this event! We therefore would like to inform you about the
>> development and would like to get some feedback from you as PAGES/CLIVAR
>> foci leaders in order to afterwards proceed with the event organization.
>> See the emails below for further information on the planned / suggested EPRI
>> involvement.
>>
>> Please let me know by Wednesday your comments!
>>
>>
>> All the best, thanks a lot!
>> Cheers,
>> Christoph
>> --
>> Christoph Kull
>> Science Officer
>> PAGES IPO
>> Sulgeneckstrasse 38
>> CH-3007 Bern
>> Switzerland
>>
>> phone: +4131 312 31 53/33
>> fax: +4131 312 31 68
>>
>> ------ Forwarded Message
>>> From: "Williams, Larry" <LJWILLIAatXYZxyzi.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:47:11 -0700
>>> To: <p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk>, <christoph.kullatXYZxyzes.unibe.ch>,
>>> <k.briffaatXYZxyz.ac.uk>, <mannatXYZxyz.edu>, <wanneratXYZxyzb.unibe.ch>,
>>> <thorsten.kieferatXYZxyzes.unibe.ch>
>>> Cc: <jsmithatXYZxyzatusconsulting.com>
>>> Subject: FW: PAGES/CLIVAR workshop
>>>
>>> Gentlemen:
>>>
>>> It seems a happy coincidence has happened. With Joel Smith's help I have
>>> been searching for many months for a way support a workshop on climate
>>> variability. Armed with sufficient budget I have been somewhat surprised
>>> at the difficulty of finding scientific talent willing to take on this
>>> task. The main problem has been that there are two significant efforts
>>> going on in this area that have the experts fully engaged. Between the
>>> Fourth Assessment Report of the IPCC and the US Climate Change Science
>>> Program everyone who could contribute to this type of workshop seems to
>>> be fully loaded (burnt out?) and not very interested in yet another set
>>> of meetings.
>>>
>>> So when I read over the draft CLIVAR/PAGES Workshop 2006 I was very
>>> pleased to see an agenda that would fit our needs very well. The general
>>> scientific thrust outlined in your draft is right on target. The
>>> additional benefits from our point of view are:
>>> 1. excellent scientific leadership
>>> 2. excellent proposed attendees (I recognize many-not all-names on
>>> your list)
>>> 3. workshop leading to peer-reviewed paper.
>>> 4. cosponsorship by other funders-not just EPRI providing the budget
>>>
>>> The main additional features that I would like to propose would be:
>>> 4. brief report on the workshop (cut and paste from the paper?) with
>>> an emphasis on creating a list of the most important researchable topics
>>> needed to advance the field. The main objective of this report and list
>>> would be to use it as a guide for EPRI in funding follow-on research in
>>> this area. We can discuss this further at some later time.
>>> 5. Acknowledgement of Electric Power Research Institute financial
>>> support in the paper and for the meeting.
>>>
>>> Let me give you a brief explanation of why we are interested in
>>> supporting your workshop. In the 90's we had a significant component of
>>> climate change science research that we initiated and supported. We had
>>> strong involvement with NCAR through our MECCA project, a major carbon
>>> cycle project (Carbon Cycle Model Linkage Project [CCMLP]-Colin
>>> Prentice, Martin Heiman, Fortunate Joos, and 6 teams of modelers from
>>> Europe and the US--see Section 3.6 of TAR for CCMLP references), the US
>>> based ecosystem (VEMAP I and II) project, and many other worthy science
>>> research efforts. Financial difficulties for the US electric industry
>>> during this period eroded our science budget and these projects
>>> gradually came to an end. Things are looking better now and we want to
>>> get back in the business of supporting excellent climate change science
>>> research. This workshop could be an entry point for us to a new period
>>> of support for good science.
>>>
>>> Let me know if EPRI support for your workshop seems feasible from your
>>> point of view. If it does we can discuss the next steps on how to
>>> proceed.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Larry Williams
>>>
>>> Larry Williams, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Technical Manager Global Climate
>>> Electric Power Research Institute
>>> Office: 650-855-2695
>>> Fax: 650-855-2950
>>> ljwilliaatXYZxyzi.com <mailto:ljwillia@epri.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: Phil Jones [mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk]
>>> Sent: Wed 10/19/2005 8:13 AM
>>> To: Joel Smith
>>> Cc: Christoph Kull; Keith Briffa; Michael E. Mann; Heinz Wanner;
>>> Thorsten Kiefer
>>> Subject: Re: PAGES/CLIVAR workshop
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Joel,
>>> The workshop outline is attached. As I said on the phone, I'll be
>>> away tomorrow and Friday. PAGES have their support of 10K$ (US)
>>> for this and were hoping CLIVAR could match this. CLIVAR has
>>> come back and told us that their budget situation isn't good at the
>>> moment, and hope for better things later. At the moment
>>> we are wondering whether we will go ahead with a smaller
>>> workshop. These type of meetings need to be arranged some
>>> time in advance because of people's diaries and possible fieldwork
>>> commitments. The timing next June was to take advantage of
>>> another meeting in London, so we could get North Americans and
>>> others slightly cheaper. We also thought the Bernese Oberland in
>>> June would also tempt people, together with the excellent list of
>>> people we'd put together.
>>>
>>> Only the organizing committee (this email list) know of the
>>> meeting,
>>> as we've not approached the majority of the list to check
>>> availability.
>>>
>>> Email Christoph and the others if you're interested. I'm sure
>>> emphases
>>> can be changed somewhat, but the main thrust is model/data comparisons
>>> with respect to past variability. Emphasis would be on temperature,
>>> but
>>> we'd also look at variability of features such as ENSO, the NAO etc.
>>> We've
>>> all been to many meetings and know that numbers of 20-30 work best,
>>> along with lots of discussion and relatively few presentations.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Prof. Phil Jones
>>> Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
>>> School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
>>> University of East Anglia
>>> Norwich Email p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk
>>> NR4 7TJ
>>> UK
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ------ End of Forwarded Message
>>
>>
>> Attachment converted: Nebbiolo:P-C-workshop_final 1.doc (WDBN/�IC�)
>> (0067F418)
>
>
> --
> ______________________________________________________________
> Eystein Jansen
> Professor/Director
> Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research and
> Dep. of Earth Science, Univ. of Bergen
> All�gaten 55
> N-5007 Bergen
> NORWAY
> e-mail: eystein.jansenatXYZxyz.uib.no
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