Sunday, April 1, 2012


date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 16:14:31 +0200 (MET DST)
from: Julie Jones <>
subject: Re: Erik planetary albedo/Erik data
to: Tim Osborn <>

Hi Tim

It's now 6 weeks since we sent the revised version and reviewer's comments
to Science, and we're getting concerned that Mike Mann may be trying to
scupper the article. So after discussing it with Hans and Edu, we've
decided that we're happy for you to talk about the work, but not to say
that it's been submitted to Science. Thus if anyone wanted to stick their
nose in, they wouldn't know where. If we hear anything between now and Utrecht,
then we'll let you know, and if it's good news then we'll be very happy
for you to advertise for us!

I've attached a diagram that we've selected - I hope it's
self explanatory, if not, please ask.

Do you or Keith know anything about 'waiting times' with Science,
whether not hearing anything after 6 weeks of submitting a revised version
is abnormal or not?



Dr. Julie M. Jones
Institute for Coastal Research
GKSS Forschungszentrum
D-21502 Geesthacht

phone: +49 (0)4152 871845
fax: +49 (0)4152 871888

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, Tim Osborn wrote:

> Hi Julie,
> thanks for the information and your efforts on the data extraction.
> At 15:10 24/06/2004, you wrote:
> >I'm going to Utrecht, but without a poster (my work didn't really fit any
> >of the sessions).
> Keith will be there, of course, for the whole meeting. I'll unfortunately
> miss the first afternoon, as I'm in London for a different meeting on
> Tuesday. I'll arrive Tuesday evening and stay till Saturday morning.
> My talk is the very last one - hopefully people will still be there for it
> - there's always the tendency for people to leave a bit early to get home
> on the Friday! We'll see.
> What I'm going to talk about is reconstructing the climate back to the
> medieval period, focussing on the sources of uncertainty in records,
> methods and interpretation. I've got most of it planned out, but it seems
> odd to be presenting existing reconstructions after seeing the
> ground-breaking results that you presented at the SO&P meeting regarding
> the underpredicted low-frequencies in all the reconstructions. Your work
> has a bearing on all the reconstructions that I might show!
> Is it possible, therefore, for me to show something of your (von Storch et
> al.) results in my talk? Full credit/reference would of course be made to
> you all, if you give permission? I know that it's difficult because it
> hasn't yet been published (has it been accepted yet, do you know?). But on
> the other hand, it would provide good publicity for your work/paper if I
> was able to show a figure from it. Could you please discuss it with your
> co-authors?
> Cheers
> Tim
> Dr Timothy J Osborn
> Climatic Research Unit
> School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia
> Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK
> e-mail:
> phone: +44 1603 592089
> fax: +44 1603 507784
> web:
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