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date: Mon Jul 31 10:12:49 2006
from: Keith Briffa <k.briffaatXYZxyz.ac.uk>
subject: Re: Thompson et al, 2006 paper to include
to: "Olga Solomina" <olgasolominaatXYZxyzdex.ru>

sorry to but in, but the issue is important. We should not be stating too positively that
the tropics were cool. The full uncertainty should be reflected in the text, by adding a
few along the lines that Olga suggests here.
Keith
At 17:33 30/07/2006, you wrote:


Hello everybody,

I attach here a version of glacier box and suggestions (in red) how to include there the
reference to the new Thompson et al., 2006 paper.

In this relation - I am getting more and more concern about our statement that the Early
Holocene was cool in the tropics - this paper shows that it was, actually, warm - ice
core evidences+glaciers were smaller than now in the tropical Andes. The glaciers in the
Southern Hemisphere (Porter, 2000, review paper) were also smaller than at least in the
Neoglacial. We do not cite Porter's paper for the reason that we actually do not know
how to explain this - orbital reason does not work for the SH, but if we do cite it
(which is fair) we have to say that during the Early to Mid Holocene glaciers were
smaller than later in both Northen, and Southern Hemisphere, including the tropics,
which would contradict to our statement in the Holocene chapter and the bullet. It is
probably too late to rise these questions, but still just to draw your attention.

I am going to Kamchatka tomorrow, but will be avaliable by e-mail from time to time.

All the best,
olga


----- Original Message -----
From: [1]Jonathan Overpeck
To: [2]Olga Solomina
Cc: [3]Eystein Jansen ; [4]oyvind.paasche@bjerknes.uib.no
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Wg1-ar4-ch06] Fwd: Additional In-Press Papers
Hi Olga - I agree, and hope that you and –®yvind make sure you include it in the
next round of edits, which will begin very soon. We have all of the new text and
Eystein is assembling for authors to check. This same new draft will be the one that
Eystein and I work on to achieve more consistency and the proper length. Although
we've cut some text already, some received has grown too. So... think about a way to
include the reference to Lonnie's work without lengthening if you can.
OK? Many thanks, Peck

Hi Peck,

Lonnie's paper is a very good one and suitable for the glacier box. If it is still
possible I would add this reference.

olga

----- Original Message -----
From: [5]Jonathan Overpeck
To: [6]wg1-ar4-ch06@joss.ucar.edu
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 6:32 PM
Subject: [Wg1-ar4-ch06] Fwd: Additional In-Press Papers
Hi Chap 6 LA's - here is another batch of papers from the TSU to be considered
using the guidelines provided below - we don't want to add citations just to
make our ref list more complete.
Thanks, Peck and Eystein

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To: Jonathan Overpeck <jtoatXYZxyzrizona.edu>,
Eystein Jansen <eystein.jansenatXYZxyz.uib.no>
Subject: Additional In-Press Papers

Dear CLAs
Please find attached additional paper(s) that are relevant to your
chapter and have been submitted in response to our most recent
guidelines for consideration of papers published in 2006 following the
expert and government review. A separate spreadsheet file is attached
listing: the submitter, file name of the paper, its acceptance date, and
the chapter and section which the submitter feels is relevant.
As discussed in Bergen, please note the following:
* inclusion of additional papers in the final draft should not open up
any substantive issues that were not in the second draft and so not
previously reviewed;
* additional papers should only be used where in the view of the LAs
doing so provides a more balanced coverage of scientific views;
* we anticipate that a quick reading of the abstract of each paper will
enable a decision consistent with this and we would not encourage any
lengthy consideration by the LA team.
One additional point to keep in mind is that this most recent adjustment
of our publication deadlines should not be perceived by others as a
device for allowing the LAs to reference more of their own papers. We
trust that you and your team will be both objective and vigilant when
deciding to include or reject papers in this respect.
Best regards,
WG1 TSU
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