from: Michael Mann <mannatXYZxyzeo.psu.edu>
subject: Re: Past Millennia Climate Variability - Review Paper
to: Phil Jones <p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk>
I did read the paper once over to get a sense of the flow as well as
comment on specifics, and I think it fits together remarkably well given
that it is splice of different authors w/ different styles/emphases.
I agree that part 4 could perhaps be fleshed out a bit more, for example
greenhouse gases are given short thrift and anthropogenic tropospheric
aerosols, near as I can tell, aren't even discussed. Gavin/Caspar would
perhaps we best suited to revise this section.
But perhaps you'll get some constructive feedback/suggestions in each of
these areas from the current authors. w/ 27 co-authors there is a huge
sense of division of responsibility, so you may need to prod folks a few
times before getting them to respond.
let me know if I can be of any help w/ particular individuals!
talk to you later,
Phil Jones wrote:
> You're the first to respond with comments. Only 12 have acknowledged
> receipt of the email so far of the 27 authors. A couple seem to be on
> from emails I've had.
> Section 3 is based on what Gene originally sent, but with inputs from
> Francis and Caspar - not much from Caspar though. Tim here then put
> all this together. It's been too busy here lately, that I've not had
> a chance to
> fully read this with time to think. The trees part was added
> yesterday morning!
> If you get time to look at the overall paper and consider whether any
> issues are missing, or less important ones overmentioned. Also
> look at the conclusions (also add to those there) and say which major
> ones of these should follow
> through to the abstract. Section 4 probably needs more work. I got some
> good text from Gavin, small bits from Caspar and then the Figure text
> added. It is probably a bit disjointed. The style of the different
> parts of
> section 2 on the paleo disciplines is also a little different.
> We had to send this out to keep Thorsten and EPRI off our backs.
> The arranged reviewing Keith has done will help - if all goes to plan
> with fasttracking we could have this in August.
> At 03:57 21/02/2008, you wrote:
>> Hi Phil,
>> The paper has shaped up very nicely--thanks for all of the work
>> you've done on this. The appendix is especially nice--it's great to
>> see this business finally put to rest, and will be very nice to
>> finally be able to cite this when the paper is in press.
>> I've attached a modified version, for your use. i didn't want to
>> circulate to the full group, because frankly I wasn't quite sure
>> whose feet I'm stepping on w/ some of my suggested edits/deletions.
>> In a few places, I've objected (somewhat strenuously!) to some added
>> bits that I felt were problematic/wrong and/or redundant anyways w/
>> better treatment and discussion of related issues elsewhere in the
>> paper. I've also made a number of other comments regarding issues
>> that are minor but nonetheless in my view important to get right,
>> since this paper probably will be widely cited. Let me know if any
>> of my suggestions/changes require further discussion.
>> All of my changes are highlighted in cyan w/ comments in brackets and
>> bold font. I fixed the ambiguity in Mann et al '05/'05b. There is
>> just one Mann et al (05) that is relevant in this paper, so I've
>> eliminated the 'b's, and I've also updated any outdated references.
>> I also added a short statement to the acknowledgements (also
>> highlighted in cyan).
>> talk to you later,
>> Phil Jones wrote:
>>> Dear All,
>>> Attached is the latest draft. This has undergone much change
>>> in the past couple of
>>> months. Keith has arranged for this to reviewed quickly by The
>>> Holocene. Subject
>>> to that being OK it will also be fastracked and could by out by the
>>> boreal autumn.
>>> So we need you to look through your section, and overall. We'd like
>>> to submit this in
>>> early March.
>>> We know some small bits are missing (SH trees for example -
>>> Ricardo is likely in
>>> the field). We also need to clean up the references. If you have
>>> some of those highlighted
>>> in yellow - send them.
>>> Can you all check the conclusions and add/modify but keep them
>>> concise and in the bullet form? Also add in acknowledgements you'd
>>> to have at the end. I presume you all want to remain involved in
>>> this. Also
>>> check affiliations.
>>> When you get this can you all acknowledge the email, so I can be
>>> my list is OK and that all have received it.
>>> PS can someone send this on to Huges Goose. He doesn't seem to be
>>> on this
>>> Prof. Phil Jones
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>>> NR4 7TJ
>> Michael E. Mann
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> Prof. Phil Jones
> Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
> School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
> University of East Anglia
> Norwich Email p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk
> NR4 7TJ
Michael E. Mann
Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)
Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075
503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663
The Pennsylvania State University email: mannatXYZxyz.edu
University Park, PA 16802-5013