from: "Webster, Peter J" <pjwatXYZxyz.gatech.edu>
subject: Re: CRU station temperature data
to: P Jones <P.JonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk>
I should have known better. I was talking to Lonnie Smith a couple of weeks ago and he said that McIntyre is insisting on access to all of his ice cores. Not the raw data, mind you. BTW, the Science paper doesn't use your data. It is on El Nino changes and the influence on TCs in the NATL. We are particularly interested in the late 1930-40 bump and phase differences between land and sea. Looking at total atmospheric heating over ocean and land we had noted that the anomalies were out of phase with a time scale in the oscillation of about 8 years. Whther or not we can tease out the physics of such an oscillation or if it is a statistical artifcat remains to be seen.
----- Original Message -----
From: "P Jones" <P.JonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk>
To: "Peter J Webster" <pjwatXYZxyz.gatech.edu>
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:02:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: CRU station temperature data
I'll look out for the Science paper.
> Dear Phil,
> I am sorry to have betrayed a trust. I thought that I was clearing things
> up. I wil stay out of it now. But we really appreciate the data. I know
> you guys go through a lot and I am sorry to make it worse.
> PS: The data was very helpful for our little study.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Jones" <p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk>
> To: pjwatXYZxyz.gatech.edu
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:53:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: CRU station temperature data
> If I knew you were going to go onto Climate Audit, I probably
> wouldn't have
> sent you the temperature data back in January. This was a private email
> correspondence between CRU and Georgia Tech.
> There is a lot you aren't aware of. We've had requests from some on
> CA for
> email correspondence about who changed what and why in AR4. This has now
> gone to appeal. IPCC can't hope to work with people putting in requests
> personal emails. On this issue they have sent numerous requests to
> Universities and the Met Office in the UK. Maybe one day NCAR and the
> paleo group will release the exchanges they have had with them.
> I haven't made the station data available to them, because they
> should be
> happy with the gridded data. They won't stop with the data, but
> will then move
> on to the software. They have asked on numerous occasions. They have the
> GISS and GHCNv2 data. McIntyre has stated on a number of occasions that
> is not interested in developing his own global temperature dataset.
> He says it will
> be quite easy for him to do. I wish he would develop such a series,
> then he will
> learn some science and realise how robust the series is. All he
> wants to do is
> knock the science and smear honest scientists.
> This is a private email between the two of us.
> Prof. Phil Jones
> Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
> School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
> University of East Anglia
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> Peter J. Webster
> Earth and Atmospheric Sciences & Environmental Engineering
> Environmental Science and Technology Building
> Georgia Institute of Technology
> Atlanta, GA: 30308
Peter J. Webster
Earth and Atmospheric Sciences & Environmental Engineering
Environmental Science and Technology Building
Georgia Institute of Technology
Atlanta, GA: 30308