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date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:33:22 +0000
from: Chris Turney <C.S.M.TurneyatXYZxyzter.ac.uk>
subject: Re: Capturing long-term change using RCS
to: Keith Briffa <k.briffaatXYZxyz.ac.uk>

Hi Keith,

Thanks a lot for getting back to me. This sounds really hopeful. It would be great to
crack this nut and marvellous to hear your working on it. I look forward to seeing the
manuscript; do you mind if I share it with Richard Duncan and Jonathan Palmer who I am
working closely with on this? It won't go any further.

I'll also check it's alright to send the data to you to run through the program. I'm sure
it won't be a problem but best check before hand.

Hope things are going well.

All the best,

Chris

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Professor Chris Turney
Author of [1]Ice, Mud and Blood: Lessons from Climates Past
Popular science website:
[2]www.christurney.com
[3]Journal of Quaternary Science Asian and Australasian Regional Editor
School of Geography, Archaeology and Earth Resources
The University of Exeter
Exeter
Devon
EX4 4RJ
UK
Times Higher University of the Year 2007-08
Home page:
[4]www.sogaer.ex.ac.uk/geography/people/staff/c_turney/main.shtml
E-mail: [5]c.s.m.turney@exeter.ac.uk
Office Tel.: +44 (0)1392 263331
Fax.: +44 (0)1392 263342
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be happy than right any day
Arthur Dent: And are you?
Slartibartfast: No. Thats where it all falls down of course.
Arthur Dent: Pity. It sounded like quite a good lifestyle otherwise.
The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams
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On 14 Mar 2008, at 11:22, Keith Briffa wrote:

Chris,
We have written a paper recently for the book being edited by Malcolm Hughes and Henry
Diaz. Tom will forward a copy - though please treat this as confidential until the final
version is agreed - thanks. It is true that the RCS can be biased by recent data (and
produce a somewhat undefined trend in the overall chronology when this is produced from
only living trees). Take a particular look at the first example of problem applications
- near the end of the article (the "Briffa Bodge" bit!).
How about looking at the data with the new RCS program we have? The software is not
quite ready for general use but it will not be long. In the meantime Tom and I here
could put your data through it to see what it looks like and you can have the software
when he and I have agreed the final version of course.
Best wishes,
Keith and Tom.
At 17:37 12/03/2008, you wrote:

Hi Keith

No worries at all. Must have used my gmail address. Thanks for looking at this.

With best wishes,

Chris

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Professor Chris Turney

Author of <[6]http://www.palgrave.com/PRODUCTS/title.aspx?PID=280639>Ice, Mud and Blood:
Lessons from Climates Past

Popular science website:

<[7]http://www.christurney.com>[8]www.christurney.com

<[9]http://www.interscience.wiley.com/journal/jqs>Journal of Quaternary Science Asian
and Australasian Regional Editor

School of Geography, Archaeology and Earth Resources

The University of Exeter

Exeter

Devon

EX4 4RJ

UK

Times Higher University of the Year 2007-08

Home page:

<[10]http://www.sogaer.ex.ac.uk/geography/people/staff/c_turney/main.shtml>[11]www.sogae
r.ex.ac.uk/geography/people/staff/c_turney/main.shtml

E-mail: <[12]mailto:c.s.m.turney@exeter.ac.uk>[13]c.s.m.turney@exeter.ac.uk

Office Tel.: +44 (0)1392 263331

Fax.: +44 (0)1392 263342

****************************************************

Slartibartfast: Science has achieved some wonderful things of course, but I'd far
rather be happy than right any day

Arthur Dent: And are you?

Slartibartfast: No. Thats where it all falls down of course.

Arthur Dent: Pity. It sounded like quite a good lifestyle otherwise.

The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams

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On 12 Mar 2008, at 16:10, Keith Briffa wrote:

Chris

have just found your email in my spam filter!! Will look at this and get back to you -
sorry in rush to go to meeting

Keith

At 17:37 05/03/2008, you wrote:

Dear Keith,

Sorry to bother you but I was wondering whether I could pick your brain? I'm working
with some friends in New Zealand, looking at quantifying past temperature change using
pink pine. We have a robust dataset stretching back 550 years but using modern trees.
Using the RCS method we are concerned we are losing the long-term temperature trend
because of the bias introduced by the reliance on modern trees.

We wondering whether you have any idea how best to overcome this issue? Any ideas would
be fantastic. We've got a stunning dataset but feel frustrated we're missing out on a
significant part of the story.

Look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Best wishes,

Chris

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Professor Chris Turney

Author of
<<[14]http://www.palgrave.com/PRODUCTS/title.aspx?PID=280639>[15]http://www.palgrave.com
/PRODUCTS/title.aspx?PID=280639>Ice, Mud and Blood: Lessons from Climates Past

Popular science website:

<<[16]http://www.christurney.com>[17]http://www.christurney.com>[18]www.christurney.com

<<[19]http://www.interscience.wiley.com/journal/jqs>[20]http://www.interscience.wiley.co
m/journal/jqs>Journal of Quaternary Science Asian and Australasian Regional Editor

School of Geography, Archaeology and Earth Resources

The University of Exeter

Exeter

Devon

EX4 4RJ

UK

Times Higher University of the Year 2007-08

Home page:

<<[21]http://www.sogaer.ex.ac.uk/geography/people/staff/c_turney/main.shtml>[22]http://w
ww.sogaer.ex.ac.uk/geography/people/staff/c_turney/main.shtml>[23]www.sogaer.ex.ac.uk/ge
ography/people/staff/c_turney/main.shtml

E-mail:
<<[24]mailto:c.s.m.turney@exeter.ac.uk>[25]mailto:c.s.m.turney@exeter.ac.uk><[26]mailto:
c.s.m.turney@exeter.ac.uk>[27]c.s.m.turney@exeter.ac.uk

Office Tel.: +44 (0)1392 263331

Fax.: +44 (0)1392 263342

****************************************************

Slartibartfast: Science has achieved some wonderful things of course, but I'd far
rather be happy than right any day

Arthur Dent: And are you?

Slartibartfast: No. Thats where it all falls down of course.

Arthur Dent: Pity. It sounded like quite a good lifestyle otherwise.

The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams

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Professor Keith Briffa,

Climatic Research Unit

University of East Anglia

Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K.

Phone: +44-1603-593909

Fax: +44-1603-507784

<[28]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/>[29]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people
/briffa/

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Professor Keith Briffa,
Climatic Research Unit
University of East Anglia
Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K.
Phone: +44-1603-593909
Fax: +44-1603-507784
[30]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/

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