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cc: Thomas C Peterson <Thomas.C.PetersonatXYZxyza.gov>, David Easterling <David.EasterlingatXYZxyza.gov>
date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:07:59 -0500
from: "Russell.Vose" <Russell.VoseatXYZxyza.gov>
subject: Re: Climate Audit and Rewriting History!
to: Phil Jones <p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk>

I saw the HCN bit this morning. These people have an obscure hobby -- I certainly don't
give HCN thought in my spare time!
Matt Menne probably has a plot of v2 minus v1. He's working on two papers, which should be
done about end of March. We want to get things in the pipeline before the Peilke paper
comes out.
Phil Jones wrote the following on 2/16/2007 12:05 PM:

Russ, Dave,
There is a new USHCN bit on the Climate Audit website. They have picked up some
series from John Daly's website (the guy who died 2 years ago), differenced
them from your new one and produce a difference plot, then said this...
The effect of the adjustments since 2000 has been to bring the USHCN history more in
line with the CRU version. One wonders exactly what adjustments have been performed by
CRU and the recent admission by Brohan et al 2006 that original versions of many series
have been overwritten leaving only the adjusted versions is extremely disquieting.
Now, guys I know we're good........ so they seem to believe you've adjusted your
new version to be like ours. This gets funnier and funnier......
I reckon Daly's version, which is from Jim Hansen may be pre-v1.
By the way do you have a plot of v2 minus v1?
Is there a paper coming on v2?
Cheers
Phil
At 14:04 16/02/2007, Russell.Vose wrote:

Hadn't looked at this in a while. Thanks for a reminder, as I needed a laugh to start
the day!
Phil Jones wrote the following on 2/16/2007 7:46 AM:

Haedline might be. 2006 no longer warmest year over the lower 48 states.
It is now 1998, but we just missed it at the time!
I presume you'll have error bars and good explanations!
Cheers
Phil
[1]http://www.climateaudit.org/

Dear All,

Occasionally I get to the end of a week and have a little spare
time. I then look at Real Climate and Climate Audit. Look at the
link above and the story about the USHCN. I began to look at
the comments and said to myself - how long will it be before the CRU
data are dragged into this. Answer - not long!
What Brohan et al were getting at was the issue you know well.
Country X or Scientist Y sends some data - saying its been homogenized.
We added this data to the database as it looks fine (after some checks).
Most of the data were for new stations. They may or may not contain
adjustments but we use them, and we don't have the raw data, just what
we've been sent!
I bet you'll get many more accusations of manipulating the data. The
skeptics don't seem to want to accept that techniques get better and new
ideas come along.
Cheers
Phil

Prof. Phil Jones
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School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
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Russell S. Vose, Chief
Climate Analysis Branch
National Climatic Data Center
151 Patton Avenue
Asheville, North Carolina 28801
Phone: (828) 271-4311
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[3]Russell.Vose@noaa.gov

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email [4]p.jones@uea.ac.uk
NR4 7TJ
UK
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--
Russell S. Vose, Chief
Climate Analysis Branch
National Climatic Data Center
151 Patton Avenue
Asheville, North Carolina 28801
Phone: (828) 271-4311
Fax: (828) 271-4328
E-mail: [5]Russell.Vose@noaa.gov

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