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cc: "Mark Hebden" <maheatXYZxyzc.ac.uk>, <K.BriffaatXYZxyz.ac.uk>, <t.kleinenatXYZxyz.ac.uk>
date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:21:04 +0100
from: "Marsh, AKP \(Kevin\) - SSTD" <k.marshatXYZxyzac.uk>
subject: RE: RAPID Round 1 & 2 projects update
to: "Tim Osborn" <t.osbornatXYZxyz.ac.uk>

Thanks for the information Tim, that's very useful. I'll discuss the
issues with my colleagues in the RDC and work out what the best way to
proceed is. It may be useful to have a copy of the model data for the
first round project to ensure it's long term preservation,

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Osborn [mailto:t.osborn@uea.ac.uk]
Sent: 22 June 2007 12:19
To: Marsh, AKP (Kevin) - SSTD
Cc: Mark Hebden; K.Briffa@uea.ac.uk; t.kleinenatXYZxyz.ac.uk
Subject: RE: RAPID Round 1 & 2 projects update

Hi Kevin,

we have two Rapid projects, but still ongoing.

The first ("Quantitative applications of high-res late Holocene
proxies..., NER/T/S/2002/00440) has produced the drought data sets,
but is also using many existing data sets including model simulations
done by other groups. At our data meeting near the start of the
project we discussed whether it was appropriate or efficient for
BADC/BODC to archive copies of these model and other data sets give
that they weren't generated by the project and (for the model data)
we already spent time under a different project developing a website
to provide access. It isn't clear in my mind what conclusion we came
to, especially for the model data. If you'd like to take a look at
this data and our archive site for it, go here:


follow links to "climate model data" and then on to either HadCM3 or
ECHO-G data. The actual data access is password protected:

For HadCM3 login details are


The second project ("To what extent was the Little Ice Age...,
NE/C509507/1) is making new model runs with HadCM3. Our postdoc
Thomas Kleinen has made very many runs now, but many are exploratory
runs rather than production runs, and I think it is the latter final
experiment runs that should be archived and shared. Most of the
production runs are not yet complete. An exception is our
multi-century control run, which is complete. But do you want data
from another HadCM3 control run (a number already exist)? A guess it
will be appropriate once the experiment runs that are associated with
this particular control run are ready. I've cc'd this to Thomas and
to Keith. We'll need to discuss and select appropriate selection of
variables and time resolutions to keep data transfer efficient.



At 11:40 22/06/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Tim,
>Hope things are well with you. I saw Gerard at the RAPID meeting
>earlier this week, and he was telling me about the SST reconstruction
>he's been working on. I've just checked the RAPID DMP for your project,

>and model runs are also mentioned as one of the outputs for archiving
>(in addition to the drought synthesis datasets). Is this still the
>case? Many Thanks, Kevin
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tim Osborn [mailto:t.osborn@uea.ac.uk]
>Sent: 26 April 2007 16:46
>To: Marsh, AKP (Kevin) - SSTD
>Subject: RE: RAPID Round 1 & 2 projects update
>And the North American drought data are now there too.
>European drought data now here:
>Hi Kevin,
>please find attached a readme text file for the European drought
>indices. The data themselves are too big to email, so I'll put them on

>the webserver for you to download. Will let you know soon. The North
>American drought data will also be placed there in the next day or two.

>We'll keep them on our webserver too, so you can either link to that or

>download them and provide your copy via BADC.
>At 12:42 25/04/2007, you wrote:
> >Hi Tim,
> >Any updates on these you can report? (I've got a meeting with Meric
> >soon & he may ask) Cheers, kevin
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Tim Osborn [mailto:t.osborn@uea.ac.uk]
> >Sent: 23 February 2007 12:06
> >To: Marsh, AKP (Kevin) - SSTD
> >Cc: Keith Briffa; t.kleinenatXYZxyz.ac.uk
> >Subject: Re: RAPID Round 1 & 2 projects update
> >
> >
> >Hi Kevin,
> >
> >specifically with regards to data outputs...
> >
> >For Round1 project I will shortly be sending you information about
> >two newly derived data sets that were funded by this project. Both
> >are 20th century drought indices, one for the European region, one
> >for USA.
> >I guess you'll want the data too, for archiving?
> >
> >For Round2 project we have made a number of new simulations with
> >HadCM3
> >but none of these represent our final experimental design, so will be

> >re-run in final configuration -- only after that will the data be
> >worth
> >archiving.
> >
> >Is that ok?
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Tim
> >
> >At 23:50 22/02/2007, you wrote:
> > >Hi Tim,
> > >I'm just putting together the annual report for the RAPID Data
> > >Centre, and was wondering if you could give me a quick update on
> > >the current status of your Round 1 and Round 2 RAPID projects,
> > >thanks, Kevin
> >
> >Dr Timothy J Osborn, Academic Fellow
> >Climatic Research Unit
> >School of Environmental Sciences
> >University of East Anglia
> >Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK
> >
> >e-mail: t.osbornatXYZxyz.ac.uk
> >phone: +44 1603 592089
> >fax: +44 1603 507784
> >web: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/
> >sunclock: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm

Dr Timothy J Osborn, Academic Fellow
Climatic Research Unit
School of Environmental Sciences
University of East Anglia
Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK

e-mail: t.osbornatXYZxyz.ac.uk
phone: +44 1603 592089
fax: +44 1603 507784
web: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/
sunclock: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm

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