date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 17:54:44 -0400
from: "Wahl, Eugene R" <wahleatXYZxyzred.edu>
subject: RE: Past Millennia Climate Variability - Review Paper -
to: "Phil Jones" <p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk>
Thanks Phil. I just read the following quote from Helmut Schmidt, so it is clear he is taking the "we don't know what causes climate change tack -- possibly he's been reading too much Michael Chrichton (sp?). It is amazing how good the "Doubt is Our Product" effort has been in the face of decades of good work now, especially in this case (it seems) regarding the basic understandings of Quaternary Ice Age pacing--notwithstanding exactly how the orbital forcing/climate feedback mechanism works.
This is part of a message from Lowell Stott about the Post ESH situation of climate research funding here in the US. Given ESH's involvement/non-involvement with European funding, I imagine it is worth a read from your "side" also.
I would like to bring to your attention the report from the Post-ESH workshop held at the AGU in Washington DC, March 29-30, 2007. You can read the report from the MESH website at:
Complimentary efforts are also being organized by our counterparts in Europe, Australia and Asia.
In the next few years the research conducted by the paleoclimate community will very likely be at the center of discussions about Global Climate Change. Consider the quote released this week from the former German Chancellor
Former German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt called for an end to the "hysteria" over global warming in the lead-up to the summit. The topic is "hysterical, overheated, and that is especially because of the media," Schmidt told Germany's Bild daily. There has always been climate change on earth, Schmidt said. "We've had warm- and ice-ages for hundreds of thousands of years," he said, and added that the reasons behind the multiple climate changes have been "inadequately researched for the time being." To assume that global climate change can be altered by any plans made at the Heiligendamm summit is "idiotic," he said.
--Deutsche Welle, 4 June 2007
I hope you will take the time to read the report and consider how you can help promote the scientific initiative outlined in the report.
University of Southern California
From: Phil Jones [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Thu 6/7/2007 11:05 AM
To: Wahl, Eugene R
Subject: RE: Past Millennia Climate Variability - Review Paper - section 3.3-3.4 draft text AND references
It's normal for these sorts of Workshops to have some sort of deliverable
- mainly for the funding agencies to show they are spending their
I reckon it cost of the order 30K$.
Seems like more talk at the G8. As we say here they need to Walk the Walk
and not just Talk the Talk. G8 made a lot of promises after Gleneagles on
Africa and only some of them happened.
I will modify your part of the paper at the weekend. Thanks for
all the references.
It is best to keep these in check as we go along, otherwise it can be a big
burden at the end - and I'll forget where they are in the text and
who added them.
At 15:50 07/06/2007, you wrote:
>You are welcome; I'm glad to contribute and only sorry that I simply
>couldn't get it done sooner. Thanks for the word to Thorsten; it
>doesn't hurt to be in the "good books", I would imagine.
>I actually was a bit surprised by the strength of Thorsten's message
>yesterday, and it seemed that it was gently worded at that! But, I
>think, for my part, that this comes from the fact I did not know
>before the conference that a summary paper was an anticipated
>product. That had not been communicated to me, and I had not
>participated in such a conference before. However, I did a little
>quick math in my head about the likely costs to put the conference
>on (I once was a finance economist), and when I came up with a round
>figure I thought, "Yes, I would expect a specific product with
>significant "heft" to come out of the time together" in such a case.
>Let me say thanks again to you for your dilligence. It has meant a
>lot to the whole effort, and to me personally.
>From: Phil Jones [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
>Sent: Wed 6/6/2007 12:10 PM
>To: Wahl, Eugene R
>Subject: Re: Past Millennia Climate Variability - Review Paper -
>section 3.3-3.4 draft text AND references
> Thanks. I'll get to these over the weekend.
> You're in Thorsten's good books. I told him
> where we are with those who've sent things and those that haven't!
>At 16:11 06/06/2007, you wrote:
> >Hi Phil:
> >Here are two references concerning mechanistic modeling of tree ring
> >growth. Also included is the reference to Ammann-Wahl 07, which of
> >course shows up nowhere else.
> >Also attached is another (!) slightly modified version of my
> >contribution to the Wengen summary paper, including the appropriate
> >citations for the references below. I believe that this should complete
> >my contribution to the draft for full-read-over/submission stage. The
> >changes I needed to make are now all included in the text proper, and
> >anything that needed to be changed/omitted is marked as "deleted" by
> >Track Changes. The few latest changes, since my last message of 6/4,
> >are highlighted in yellow.
> >Thanks for all you work on this text!
> >Fritts H.C., Shashkin A.V., Downes G.M. 1999. A simulation model of
> >conifer ring growth and cell structure. In: Wimmer R., Vetter R.E. (eds)
> >Tree-Ring Analysis, Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, UK, pp. 3-32.
> >Vaganov E.A. 1996. Mechanisms and simulation of tree ring formation in
> >conifer wood. Lesovedenie (Russ. J. For. Sci.) 1:3-15 (in Russian).
> >Ammann, C.M. and Wahl, E.R., 2007, The Importance of the Geophysical
> >Context in Statistical Evaluations of Climate Reconstruction Procedures,
> >in press, Climatic Change.
> >[NOTE: This article was just sent to Stephen Schneider with, presumably,
> >final revisions based on re-review. These changes were relatively few
> >and small-scale, and the article has been accepted pending their
> >approval. So, technically its status is "accepted, in final revision"
> >until Steve gives the final approval for it to have "in press" status.
> >We expect this to happen soon, possibly before the Wengen paper is
> >actually submitted.]
> >Peace, Gene
> >Dr. Eugene R. Wahl
> >Asst. Professor of Environmental Studies
> >Alfred University
> >1 Saxon Drive
> >Alfred NY, 14802
>Prof. Phil Jones
>Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
>School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
>University of East Anglia
>Norwich Email p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk
Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk