Wednesday, May 16, 2012


date: Tue, 13 May 2008 17:16:46 +0100
from: "Mcgarvie Michael Mr \(ACAD\)" <>
subject: RE: Proposed alternative response to Holland letter [FOI-08-23]
to: "Briffa Keith Prof \(ENV\)" <>


I spoke with Dave earlier and he made some really useful points that I
asked him to put in an email to everyone - he was hoping to get around
to that today sometime. The crux was that if we are saying no to the
request on the grounds of confidentiality, are there issues in the
longer draft response that might work against that approach response? I
am sure that Dave will put it more eloquently than I have - hopefully
his email will arrive in the near future.



Michael McGarvie
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-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Briffa []
Sent: 13 May 2008 17:12
To: Palmer Dave Mr (LIB); Mcgarvie Michael Mr (ACAD); Osborn Timothy Dr
(ENV); Jones Philip Prof (ENV)
Subject: RE: Proposed alternative response to Holland letter [FOI-08-23]

Could just prompt again for a response from Phil and David in
particular , for an opinion on which response I should send to
Holland - of the two alternatives I showed you. Thanks

At 15:10 12/05/2008, Keith Briffa wrote:
>Thanks Dave
>I think your request is answered in the attachment Tim just sent
>At 14:56 12/05/2008, Palmer Dave Mr (LIB) wrote:
>>I have emailed the Met Office in regards the material released by
>>They won't accept direct phone calls so this is the best I can do at
>>moment; I will report on their response asap.
>>On a related matter, I will need contact details for the individuals
>>contacted in regards their attitude towards the correspondence
>>to in the request. This will go to the issue of 'confidentiality' as
>>used in the s.41 FOIA exemption for material whose release 'would
>>constitute a breach of confidence actionable by that or any other
>>I should note that this exemption only applies to information obtained
>>by UEA from other persons; it does not extend to information generated
>>within UEA.
>>Cheers, Dave
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Keith Briffa []
>> >Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 2:23 PM
>> >To: Mcgarvie Michael Mr (ACAD); Palmer Dave Mr (LIB); Osborn
>> >Timothy Dr (ENV); Jones Philip Prof (ENV)
>> >Subject: Proposed alternative response to Holland letter
>> >
>> >Sorry people correct versions now attached - please delete previous
>> >message attachments
>> >
>> >Dear Michael, David,Tim, and Phil
>> >
>> >attached , as promised , are the original letter from David Holland
>> >to myself, along with two alternative responses. I am waiting
>> >comments from Phil , but both myself and Tim lean towards showing
>> >some degree of apparent cooperation by sending the longer ,detailed
>> >response. Tim is forwarding the combined responses from our
>> >collaborators/co-authors regarding our earlier message asking their
>> >opinion were we to send copies of their correspondence with regard
>> >Holland's FOIA request. You will see that they are universally
>> >opposed. Please also see the message from Susan Solomon (via Tim),
>> >copying her response to John Mitchell's message related to Holland's
>> >earlier request to him. The FOIA request is , I know, separate from
>> >the issue of the specific list of questions from Holland of me, but
>> >we must also consider whether my decision to send one or other of
>> >alternative responses will influence our decision of how to respond
>> >to the FOI request. My interpretation of Susan's message (though
>> >originally drafted in response to John Mitchell - a review editor
>> >rather than a lead author of the IPCC) is that she would consider
>> >shorter response appropriate. If I sent this it would certainly not
>> >be considered sufficient to negate the FOIA request. I would value
>> >your opinion as to the best course of action to take ,i.e. which
>> >letter - or indeed neither - from here on.
>> >regards
>> >Keith
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Professor Keith Briffa,
>> >Climatic Research Unit
>> >University of East Anglia
>> >Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K.
>> >
>> >Phone: +44-1603-593909
>> >Fax: +44-1603-507784
>> >
>> >
>> >
>Professor Keith Briffa,
>Climatic Research Unit
>University of East Anglia
>Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K.
>Phone: +44-1603-593909
>Fax: +44-1603-507784

Professor Keith Briffa,
Climatic Research Unit
University of East Anglia
Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K.

Phone: +44-1603-593909
Fax: +44-1603-507784

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