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date: Fri Oct 15 12:07:01 2004
from: Phil Jones <>
subject: Fwd: Re: our IJC manuscript

FYI -see the paras from Anders about Alexander.

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 12:54:10 +0200
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Subject: Re: our IJC manuscript
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I think sometime in the second half of November is realistic.
By the way, Alexander and I have had some more struggle with the emulate database. It is
constantly increasing in number of stations. We have now also included all ECA series
and will put these under a separate file directory for internal use. This would be
convenient for anyone in emulate who wishes to make analyses also for shorter periods
and with better geographical spread of stations.
Alex is also certainly going to be on board on Emulate during year 3 - but in G�teborg
rather than in Wurzburg. Just heard from him today that he and his family will move to
Sweden in February. He will work for Deliang and start his PhD studies there.
Have a good time in Firenze. Coincidentially, my wife Birgitta will be at a meeting in
Bologna the same week. However, the weather seems not to be very hot there at the
moment, so don't only bring the shorts you had in Tarragona ;-)
At 08:39 2004-10-15 +0100, you wrote:

Fine, re colour. I have a new DoE grant now, so will pay from that. When you
eventually send
the paper back ask for a quote for the number of colour pages we might need. Hopefully
less than about 1000 pounds.
I'm off to Seattle tomorrow for a US DoE meeting for 3 days, then a week's holiday in
Firenze - only have to give a talk to the MICE meeting there one day. Ruth and I
forward to it.
So, if you get a revised version of the paper to me sometime after Nov 1 that would
be best.
At 07:46 15/10/2004, you wrote:

Sure, I agree with your suggestions! And, yes, we should use colour. I think you have
told me some time that you could pay ;-)
At 15:10 2004-10-14 +0100, you wrote:

Thanks for replying to Aad so thoroughly whilst I've been away !
As for the comments, I was reading some responses Marie had made to two special
issue papers from the SWURVE project. She did a good job of dismissing the reviewer's
comments in a response to the editor and only ended up making a few changes to the
manuscript. I say this as I suggest you follow the same route here. I think if you
back a revised paper taking into account some/most of B's comments and just point
out to Glenn (politely) that A doesn't know what they are talking about ! A's minor
are OK - are we going to use colour?
Basically though A is living in another world. He/she has no idea because
- just thinks the daily series are sitting out there (you could mention a little
more about
getting access to the series. It is partly a lack of digitised series and also
policies re availability). EMULATE will help, but there is so much more that
could be done.
- our paper title is roughly what we will call the section in IPCC report ! Globe
instead of
Europe. That will have no focus on the means, just the extremes. The current
study is
about extremes. There have been countless ones about the mean ! You could mention
that a few studies have tried to link extremes to changes in the mean and
variability, but this
is really difficult because the quality and quantity of the data are not really up to
it. The studies
quoted have only looked at a couple of locations and used mainly model output.
Hope you're in agreement with this.
At 15:27 11/10/2004, you wrote:

Here is the deleted message:
Just got the review of our extremes trend paper. It was posted on 22 Sep, s ito took
long time from Britain to Sweden. I have posted photocopies of the review to you. Hope
the return journey is much faster!
In summary:
Rev A found the study useful and careful, but wanted us to focus on EITHER precip OR
temp, but on BOTH means AND extremes (ultimately leading to TWO papers). This would
require lots of work, and I don't want to do this. Will have to argue against this -
possibly by telling the editor that much more will be done in EMULATE. Rev A was also
disappointed by the bad data coverage, e.g. no Iberian data. (EMULATE will help here...)
Rev B had a number of points where he wanted us to deepen the discussion, but overall he
thought the paper was GOOD. He also implicitly revealed himself as being Scandinavian
and most likely he is Heikki Tuomenvirta.
Tell me what you think when you have seen the review.

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email
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Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email
UK ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email

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