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date: Fri Feb 4 16:32:17 2005
from: Phil Jones <p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk>
subject: Re: Journalist Daniel Glick's inquiry
to: <djayglickatXYZxyzthlink.net>

Dan,
I will unfortunately be on travel for much of the rest of the month.
I have Feb 6-10 in Madrid, 12-20 in Pune, India and 22-25 in Chicago.
So I don't have the time. Whether I have the heart and stomach is
another matter. I think I would have. I am a convening lead author
on the next IPCC report, so it would be good to keep in touch. I would
appreciate a copy of your finished article for Audobon.
Mike Mann's work is of particular interest to me. I don't think it
is far from what really happened. We'll never know for sure - our
grandchildren will have a lot more proxy records. Mike's probably
told you about the web site he and others have set up to
respond to a lot of the hype [1]http://www.realclimate.org/ . Mike keeps
trying to get me write some things for this, but there is no enough
time in the day. A lot of interest has been generated by it, but I doubt
it will convince the Crichton's of this world. Why he has embarked
on this crusade is anybody's guess. All I can say is that he is getting
bad advice.
You might be aware that some new twists on the records for the last
1000 years will appear soon. There is a paper in Nature (Feb8/9 issue)
with a new 2000 year series. It has greater amplitude than Mike Mann's,
but still has the recent period as the warmest. Another paper will appear
in GRL by two skeptics (McIntyre and McKittrick). This claims to have
found a mistake in Mike's method. Their new curve has the warmest century
by far in the 15th century. None of the 6-7 curves of the last millennium
have the 15th century as warm - it is probably the 4th coldest. So they
have made a much bigger mistake than Mike - even if he made one at all !
Both paper would be worth your reading - and they both should make a
splash. The one thing the skeptics can achieve is a lot of publicity.
Unfortunately sowing doubts sometimes bears fruit.
I'll be around in March, so if you've not finished and want some input then,
then email me again.
Apologies again !
Cheers
Phil
At 14:42 04/02/2005, you wrote:

Dear Dr. Jones,
We corresponded last year while I was researching a cover story for National
Geographic magazine on climate change (it appeared in the September 2004 issue). I have
another somewhat less august task at hand, and was hoping you might be able to help.
I don't know if you have caught wind of a bestselling novel written by Michael
Crichton (Jurassic Park, Andromeda Strain), which has generated some controversy here
because of its misrepresentation of climate change science, among other things. I have
been asked by Audubon magazine to write about l'affaire Crichton, not simply because his
book will likely sell orders of magnitudes more copies than the top ten non-fiction
books on climate change, but also because he is making it something of a crusade to make
public talks denouncing climate change research -- and researchers. One target in
public talks (and in the book) has been Michael Mann's work, which I imagine might be of
particular interest to you.
I also imagine that debating a fiction writer about climate change science may seem
to be a particularly futile endeavor. But if you have the heart and stomach for it, I
would welcome your comments.
If you are unaware of the particulars, I can send you specific references and
questions for you. If you are au courant, then please feel free to comment. With your
permission, I would appreciate the opportunity to quote from your email in my article.
If there are others whom you think I should also contact, I am all ears.
Warm regards,
Daniel Glick

Daniel Glick
303 543-9086
3590 Nyland Way
Lafayette, Colorado 80026
danielatXYZxyzielglick.net
[2]www.danielglick.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Jones [[3]mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:32 AM
To: Dan Glick
Subject: Re: National Geographic inquiry
Dear Dan,
I am off home in the next few minutes, but if you send something I'll try and
have
a look over the next few days. Let me know how soon you want comments back.
Cheers
Phil
At 10:03 14/11/2003 -0700, you wrote:

Dr. Jones,
I was wondering if you might be willing and able to take a look at the section
of my draft article on climate change that includes a mention of your work. I am
anxious to be as accurate as I can possibly be.
Thanks, Dan Glick

Daniel Glick
3590 Nyland Way
Lafayette, CO 80026
[4]daniel@danielglick.net
[5]http://www.danielglick.net

----- Original Message -----
From: [6]Phil Jones
To: [7]Dan Glick
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:21 AM
Subject: Re: National Geographic inquiry
Dear Dan,
I will be able to talk to you. I will be away Sept 23-24 and most of
October at meetings, so
if you can get hold of me before the end of September. My direct line is in
the email tail.
You will obviously get an array of answers to your questions from
different people. Another
person to talk to would be Ray Bradley (at UMASS, Amherst) and Tom Wigley (at
NCAR).
It would seem easier to answer your questions on the phone and then perhaps
elaborate
over email on specific. The paleo data, for example, are just extensions of
instrumental
records. The latter are used for the detail of patterns of changes and for
linking to possible
causal factors. Paleo data allow us to place the recent past in a longer
context.
I'm writing a longer piece with Mike Mann, which would be useful for you
to read, but it's
not in a form yet we can send out. We will be going into some of the same
issues, but our
readerships will be different. Paper will be for Reviews of Geophysics (RoG).
A couple of things for you to look at - or think about.
1. I had a paper in RoG in 1999.
Jones, P.D., New, M., Parker, D.E., Martin, S. and Rigor, I.G., 1999: Surface
air temperature and its variations over the last 150 years. Reviews of
Geophysics 37, 173-199.
2. Ray Bradley's book in 1999 on Paleoclimatology. Ray's email is
rbradleyatXYZxyz.umass.edu
3. I'll forward you an email about some paleo work that has come out over the
last few months
that has generated a lot of controversy. I just want to make you aware of
the issues and
some people's agendas and sensitivities.
Cheers
Phil
At 13:50 04/09/2003 -0600, you wrote:

Dear Professor Jones,
I am an American journalist working on a article for National Geographic
Magazine about observed changes in the earth and its physical processes. An
integral part of my story will be to explore two simple (and sometimes
evasive) questions: What do we know about how the planet is changing; and How
do we know what we know? I would like very much if you might be willing to
help me address these two questions with reference to global temperatures.
With high hopes that you might help me understand and disseminate this
information to a broad, lay audience, I make the following requests: For
starters, I would appreciate it if you would assign me some homework. (I have
in hand your recent paper in Geophysical Research Letters, as well as your
Science article of April 27, 2001.) One thing I am interested in is tracing a
brief evolution of climate research itself: Who, for example, is credited
with first seeing data sets that indicated unusual warming patterns? What
were some of the difficult methodological issues that had to be confronted
when assessing the data? How did people go about reconciling different data
sets, then calibrating them to become meaningful on a global scale? How did
the science of proxy measurements begin to gain scientific credibility? What
were some of the famous, or infamous, bumps in the scientific road?
I realize this is a vast topic, and frankly it is only one part of my
upcoming article about physical change. But I see it as the platform that
helps make sense of other observed changes, like glacier melt and sea level
rise. Obviously the contention that 20th century temperatures are anomalously
high is one of the foundations of other global climate changes.
Forgive this long-winded email. Would you would be willing to point me in
the direction of some good reading on the subject, and then be gracious enough
to consent to an interview? We could talk by telephone at your convenience (I
am on travel for most of the next two weeks, but will be available
afterwards), or conduct a series of email "conversations." If you are unable
to help me, or even if you are, would you be kind enough to suggest other
scientists who might be able to speak to the questions I pose here?
Thank you for your time.
Regards,
Dan

Daniel Glick
3590 Nyland Way
Lafayette, CO 80026
[8]daniel@danielglick.net
[9]http://www.danielglick.net
Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk
NR4 7TJ
UK

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Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk
NR4 7TJ
UK
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Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk
NR4 7TJ
UK
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