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cc: Caspar Ammann <ammannatXYZxyzr.edu>, t.osbornatXYZxyz.ac.uk
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:58:31 -0600
from: Eugene Wahl <Eugene.R.WahlatXYZxyza.gov>
subject: Re: New Wengen Draft -- including changes to accommodate new
to: Phil Jones <p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk>

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Hi Phil and Tim:

Graphics will be done and sent today. A few small changes in text are
required with the new figure version, these will be sent also. They
will be outlined in color to draw your attention to them only.

Peace, Gene



Phil Jones wrote:
>
> Caspar,
> Thanks.
> Phil
>
> At 14:16 27/08/2008, Caspar Ammann wrote:
>> Phil,
>> I worked on the figures yesterday and sent them off to Gene for
>> double check. Will be one panel each (6), much improved legibility
>> and significantly reduced "footprint" in the appearance of the text.
>> You should have them before the end of your day.
>> Thanks for all your work on this paper! (Tim too!)
>> Cheers,
>> Caspar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2008, at 2:42 AM, Phil Jones wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Caspar, Gene,
>>> We're going to send the manuscript back tomorrow. If we get a
>>> revised diagram we'll include - otherwise we won't.
>>>
>>> Have had a few more comments, but nothing substantial. All
>>> yours Gene
>>> are in, as are those from Gavin, Mike, Juerg and the coral people.
>>> There
>>> is a completely revised tropical dendro section and Peck finally came
>>> through with a section on less-resolved proxies and varves.
>>>
>>> All in all it reads very well and the recommendations should
>>> prove very
>>> useful for PAGES.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>> At 04:52 26/08/2008, Caspar Ammann wrote:
>>>> Hey Gene,
>>>> I'll see how I can adjust the figures to fit.
>>>> Caspar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 25, 2008, at 8:30 PM, Eugene Wahl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Phil and Tim, and Caspar:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are my full set of comments on the entirety of section 3, the
>>>>> figures relevant to section 3, the authors' address, and abstract
>>>>> (none there). I made slight changes in the portion of the text
>>>>> already sent last night, sorry that I could not avoid that!
>>>>>
>>>>> Caspar, please note that I've operated here on the assumption that
>>>>> Figure 3 is simplified to one panel for each section, according to
>>>>> the suggestions we have talked about, but does contain all 6
>>>>> portions, A-F.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are two versions: one with just the relevant portions of
>>>>> the text, and the full amended text document. The changes noted
>>>>> should be identical in each version.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peace, Gene
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Eugene R. Wahl
>>>>> Physical Scientist
>>>>> NOAA/NESDIS/NCDC/Paleoclimate Branch
>>>>> 325 Broadway Street
>>>>> Boulder, CO 80305
>>>>> 303-497-6297
>>>>> http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/paleo.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> P.JonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk <mailto:P.Jones@uea.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> Gene,
>>>>>> Thanks. Today is a holiday here. We'll all be back in
>>>>>> CRU tomorrow. So, we'll begin revising Section 3 then.
>>>>>> Have had quite a few comments so far, and all are in.
>>>>>> New Figure 3 most appreciated. We must send this off
>>>>>> on Thursday or Friday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope you're settling in to Boulder life. At least you
>>>>>> should be able to contact Caspar more easily!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------- Original Message
>>>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>>> Subject: New Wengen Draft
>>>>>> From: Eugene.R.WahlatXYZxyza.gov <mailto:Eugene.R.Wahl@noaa.gov>
>>>>>> Date: Mon, August 25, 2008 2:45 am
>>>>>> To: p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk <mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Phil:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've had to wait to the weekend to get to this, due to several other
>>>>>> matters that had to be attended to here at NOAA this week and in
>>>>>> relation to a report required by a funder that was due Friday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've looked over about half of section 3 (up to the start of section
>>>>>> 3.4.2), and also the abstract and the authors' address section.
>>>>>> Attached are my comments on those sections. I will be getting to the
>>>>>> rest of section 3 tonight and tomorrow and will send anything else to
>>>>>> you. Everything is done in WORD with "Track Changes" turned on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HIGHLIGHTS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) My address information has been updated to include my NOAA
>>>>>> information, which is now appropriate. The original Alfred
>>>>>> information
>>>>>> is kept, as also appropriate. I've condensed it all to not
>>>>>> change the
>>>>>> overall page spacing of the address citations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) The addition to the results description of the Riedwyl et al.
>>>>>> (2008) paper across pp 10-11 here (near the top of p 56 in the
>>>>>> text you
>>>>>> sent this week). It is NECESSARY to keep this addition, as the
>>>>>> text as
>>>>>> it was "overemphasized" the differential quality of the RegEM results
>>>>>> in this study. Their graphs 4 and 6 clearly show the results I
>>>>>> added,
>>>>>> in which RegEM for winter adds quite problematic artifacts at the
>>>>>> highest levels of noise added. The white-noise SNR at which this
>>>>>> happens (0.25), while low, is not outside of what reality might
>>>>>> bring.
>>>>>> [NB: I have talked with Juerg about this situation, and he is clearly
>>>>>> aware of my sense that RegEM is given too high marks in this
>>>>>> context.]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) I added very brief descriptions how the CFRs actually come up
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> a reconstruction to the descriptions of them in section 3.2. If you
>>>>>> feel these three sentences cannot be included I understand, but I
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> they are useful for the readers to know HOW the covariance
>>>>>> information
>>>>>> we are talking about there is actually used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TO COME: Caspar and I are working out a much simplified version of
>>>>>> Figure 3 (one panel per each section A-F), which I think will be much
>>>>>> better than what is there now. We communicated on that Friday and
>>>>>> yesterday, and are now close to having a new graphic. I will
>>>>>> adapt the
>>>>>> references to Figure 3 in section 3.4.2 and in the figure caption
>>>>>> in my
>>>>>> next message accordingly, which I plan will come either tonight or
>>>>>> tomorrow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peace, and again thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gene
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: From Phil Jones New Wengen Draft
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>> Here's the revised version of the paper, together with the
>>>>>>> responses to the reviewers.
>>>>>>> We have told John Matthews, that we will get this back to him by
>>>>>>> the beginning
>>>>>>> of next week. To us in the UK this means Aug 26/27 as next
>>>>>>> Monday
>>>>>>> is a national
>>>>>>> holiday. So, to those not away at the moment, can you look
>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> parts and get any comments back to us by the end of this week or
>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> weekend?
>>>>>>> Can you also look at the references - those in yellow and let
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> know of
>>>>>>> any that have come out, or are able to correct those that I
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> just look
>>>>>>> wrong?
>>>>>>> I hope you'll think of this as an improvement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Prof. Phil Jones
>>>>>>> Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
>>>>>>> School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
>>>>>>> University of East Anglia
>>>>>>> Norwich Email p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk
>>>>>>> <mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
>>>>>>> NR4 7TJ
>>>>>>> UK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>> <wengendraft_version_18Aug_Wahl_review_SHORT_b.doc><wengendraft_version_18Aug_Wahl_review.doc>
>>>>
>>>> Caspar M. Ammann
>>>> National Center for Atmospheric Research
>>>> Climate and Global Dynamics Division - Paleoclimatology
>>>> 1850 Table Mesa Drive
>>>> Boulder, CO 80307-3000
>>>> email: ammannatXYZxyzr.edu <mailto:ammann@ucar.edu> tel:
>>>> 303-497-1705 fax: 303-497-1348
>>>>
>>> Prof. Phil Jones
>>> Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
>>> School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
>>> University of East Anglia
>>> Norwich Email p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk
>>> <mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
>>> NR4 7TJ
>>> UK
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Caspar M. Ammann
>> National Center for Atmospheric Research
>> Climate and Global Dynamics Division - Paleoclimatology
>> 1850 Table Mesa Drive
>> Boulder, CO 80307-3000
>> email: ammannatXYZxyzr.edu <mailto:ammann@ucar.edu> tel:
>> 303-497-1705 fax: 303-497-1348
>>
>>
> Prof. Phil Jones
> Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
> School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
> University of East Anglia
> Norwich Email p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk
> NR4 7TJ
> UK
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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