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cc: "Osborn Timothy Dr \(ENV\)" <>
date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:16:16 +0100
from: Phil Jones <>
subject: Re: FW: Environmental Information Regulations [FOI_09-44;
to: "Palmer Dave Mr \(LIB\)" <>, "Mcgarvie Michael Mr \(ACAD\)" <>

I sent some of the station data to a Jun Jian at Georgia Tech on 15 Jan 2009.
I see now that Peter Webster was a recipient on the email. I also see from looking
at Climate Audit that this request results from Peter saying on CA that he's
not had any difficulty getting data from CRU (see what he said below on June 24).
I regard this as a personal email between me and this group at Georgia Tech.
So, McIntyre has no right to request the data in a personal email.
I only sent a small part of the dataset anyway. They asked for a specific
set and said what they were going to do with the data.
We have asked Phil Jones for data so that we could compare the synthesized surface
temperature with actual station data. Jones has provided everything that we have asked
for. This is for our study of the 1930/40 climate bump that is ongoing. Alas, these
things take time. But my experience has been quite different to yours.
As you know, I have often complained that the right wing and the left wing (the
absolutists of AGHW and those who do not have a bar of it) have forced us into corners
in which we are not comfortable. If there is to be reasonable resolution of the climate
GWH issues and the fidelity of data (both critical and reasonable questions?) I think
that the questions and opinions can't be shouted from one corner or the other.
BTW, we have a Science article coming out next week about the changes in form of El
Nino (GHW or natural variability: no idea! But changes there are) and its impact on
NATL hurricanes. Not sure if it will be of interest to C-A as it does not raise the
question of GW. But the data set is short..
best regards
Peter W

At 13:57 26/06/2009, Palmer Dave Mr \(LIB\) wrote:

A request from Mr. McIntyre under EIR that arrived today. Response due by 24 July.
I have acknowledged the request and confirmed that we will be handling this under EIR.
Any concerns with this request? Any need for clarification?

Cheers, Dave

From: Steve McIntyre [[1]]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 4:45 AM
To: Palmer Dave Mr (LIB)
Subject: Environmental Information Regulations
Dear Mr Palmer,

Pursuant to the Environmental Information Regulations, I hereby request a copy of any
digital version of the CRUTEM station data set that has been sent from CRU to Peter
Webster and/or any other person at Georgia Tech between January 1, 2007 and Jun 25,

Thank you for your attention,

Stephen McIntyre

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email

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