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date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 20:41:11 +0000 (GMT)
from: William M Connolley <wmcatXYZxyz.ac.uk>
subject: Re: not so fast - an update
to: Caspar Ammann <ammannatXYZxyzr.edu>
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007, Caspar Ammann wrote:
> check figure A9, there the 17th century is cold, and this is probably
> the curve that was used. In that case, then its Central England from Lamb.
Ah, you mean A9(d) (I thought you meant A9(a) for a bit). Yes, that looks pretty
similar to IPCC 1990. Though not identical - the scaling is different, but the
timing is similar.
> William M Connolley wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Jan 2007, Phil Jones wrote:
> >> The net is closing...
> >> National Research Council, US Committee for the Global Atmospheric
> >> Research Program, Understanding Climatic Change: A Program for Action,
> >> National Academy of Sciences, Washington, DC, (1975), appendix A.
> >> This book (Fig A2b) has the same figure as Imbrie/Imbrie. It is rotated.
> >> It also has the same concept of the IPCC 1990 Figure, changes on
> >> various timescales - all rotated. Loads of Lamb diagrams I have
> >> seen countless times before.
> > ? The source for IPCC can't be the 1975 NAS report. That fig is relatively warm
> > about 1600; the IPCC '90 figure is cold then. And as noted the "MWP" is colder
> > than 1950. But NAS 75 is the same as I+I, true (they both source to Lamb 69).
> > Incidentally my I+I says copyright 1979, seventh printing 1998.
> > -W.
> > William M Connolley | wmcatXYZxyz.ac.uk | http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/met/wmc/
> > Climate Modeller, British Antarctic Survey | (01223) 221479
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