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date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:47:11 -0700
from: "Williams, Larry" <>
subject: FW: PAGES/CLIVAR workshop
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It seems a happy coincidence has happened. With Joel Smith's help I have been searching for
many months for a way support a workshop on climate variability. Armed with sufficient
budget I have been somewhat surprised at the difficulty of finding scientific talent
willing to take on this task. The main problem has been that there are two significant
efforts going on in this area that have the experts fully engaged. Between the Fourth
Assessment Report of the IPCC and the US Climate Change Science Program everyone who could
contribute to this type of workshop seems to be fully loaded (burnt out?) and not very
interested in yet another set of meetings.

So when I read over the draft CLIVAR/PAGES Workshop 2006 I was very pleased to see an
agenda that would fit our needs very well. The general scientific thrust outlined in your
draft is right on target. The additional benefits from our point of view are:

1. excellent scientific leadership

2. excellent proposed attendees (I recognize many-not all-names on your list)

3. workshop leading to peer-reviewed paper.

4. cosponsorship by other funders-not just EPRI providing the budget

The main additional features that I would like to propose would be:

4. brief report on the workshop (cut and paste from the paper?) with an emphasis on
creating a list of the most important researchable topics needed to advance the field. The
main objective of this report and list would be to use it as a guide for EPRI in funding
follow-on research in this area. We can discuss this further at some later time.

5. Acknowledgement of Electric Power Research Institute financial support in the paper
and for the meeting.

Let me give you a brief explanation of why we are interested in supporting your workshop.
In the 90's we had a significant component of climate change science research that we
initiated and supported. We had strong involvement with NCAR through our MECCA project, a
major carbon cycle project (Carbon Cycle Model Linkage Project [CCMLP]-Colin Prentice,
Martin Heiman, Fortunate Joos, and 6 teams of modelers from Europe and the US--see Section
3.6 of TAR for CCMLP references), the US based ecosystem (VEMAP I and II) project, and many
other worthy science research efforts. Financial difficulties for the US electric industry
during this period eroded our science budget and these projects gradually came to an end.
Things are looking better now and we want to get back in the business of supporting
excellent climate change science research. This workshop could be an entry point for
us to a new period of support for good science.

Let me know if EPRI support for your workshop seems feasible from your point of view. If it
does we can discuss the next steps on how to proceed.

Best Regards,

Larry Williams

Larry Williams, Ph.D.
Senior Technical Manager Global Climate
Electric Power Research Institute
Office: 650-855-2695
Fax: 650-855-2950


From: Phil Jones []
Sent: Wed 10/19/2005 8:13 AM
To: Joel Smith
Cc: Christoph Kull; Keith Briffa; Michael E. Mann; Heinz Wanner; Thorsten Kiefer
Subject: Re: PAGES/CLIVAR workshop

> Joel,
The workshop outline is attached. As I said on the phone, I'll be
away tomorrow and Friday. PAGES have their support of 10K$ (US)
for this and were hoping CLIVAR could match this. CLIVAR has
come back and told us that their budget situation isn't good at the
moment, and hope for better things later. At the moment
we are wondering whether we will go ahead with a smaller
workshop. These type of meetings need to be arranged some
time in advance because of people's diaries and possible fieldwork
commitments. The timing next June was to take advantage of
another meeting in London, so we could get North Americans and
others slightly cheaper. We also thought the Bernese Oberland in
June would also tempt people, together with the excellent list of
people we'd put together.
Only the organizing committee (this email list) know of the meeting,
as we've not approached the majority of the list to check availability.
Email Christoph and the others if you're interested. I'm sure emphases
can be changed somewhat, but the main thrust is model/data comparisons
with respect to past variability. Emphasis would be on temperature, but
we'd also look at variability of features such as ENSO, the NAO etc. We've
all been to many meetings and know that numbers of 20-30 work best,
along with lots of discussion and relatively few presentations.
Best Regards
Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email

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