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cc: Phil Jones <p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk>, "Sheppard Sylv Miss ((SCI))" <Sylvia.SheppardatXYZxyz.ac.uk>
date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:40:52 +0000
from: Ian Harris <i.harrisatXYZxyz.ac.uk>
subject: Re: Climate Normals Dataset
to: HVereginatXYZxyzdMcNally.com

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Hi Howard,

You are welcome to use the CL 2.0 dataset - which, as Phil explains
below, is just a Climatology. If you wish to also use the global
gridded dataset, the current version is 2.1 and the forthcoming
version is 3.0.

CRU CL 2.0
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/tmc.htm

CRU TS 2.1
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/hrg/cru_ts_2.10/

Note that for TS 2.10, the dataset is available in two formats. The
original, cell-by-cell format is at the top level, and a newer
timestep-by-timestep version is in the 'newly_gridded' directory.

Hope that helps,

Cheers

Harry


On 15 Jan 2008, at 9:20, Phil Jones wrote:

>
> Howard,
> We have a new version (3.0) which isn't that different from the
> version 2.0
> on our web site.
> I'm cc'ing Ian Harris on this email, as he's producing this.
> This is just
> the high-resolution grids. We won't be doing the country series
> this time
> as we don't have the resources.
> If you just want the climatology (i.e. no time series) then the
> link to CRU CL 2.0
> will be fine for you and you're welcome to use it. Just
> acknowledge the New et al.
> reference for the climatology.
>
> The new version is an update (to 2007) and includes more recent
> data from the 1990s
> onwards and additional data we've received in the last 5 years.
> The climatology
> we use for 1961-90 hasn't been altered.
>
> Cheers
> Phil
>
>
> At 18:09 14/01/2008, you wrote:
>> Dear Phil,
>>
>> I am the editor of Goode's World Atlas, a print atlas that my company
>> (Rand McNally) publishes for the university market (primarily U.S.).
>>
>> We are updating the atlas for the 22nd edition, which is to be
>> published
>> in 2009. We intend to update numerous climate maps in the atlas,
>> including
>>
>> - World climate regions (Koppen or similar classification) based on
>> current climate normals
>> - World precipitation and temperature
>> - Precipitation and temperature for the continents
>> - Precipitation and temperature for specific countries
>> - Possibly a variety of other maps as well, including precipitation
>> variability, temperature ranges, relative humidity, sunshine
>> probability, and other variables, at the world, continental, and
>> country
>> scales
>>
>> I've taken a look at the CRU CL 2.0 dataset, and it seems to work
>> quite
>> well for these purposes. Mark New (see thread below) suggested I
>> contact
>> you about extending permission to use the data.
>>
>> We would initially be publishing these maps in the 22nd edition of
>> Goode's World Atlas. Typically, the maps would continue to be
>> published
>> until they are again updated, which is normally many editions.
>> Also, we
>> may make a digital version of the maps available to professors, or
>> as a
>> separate product. Finally, it is likely that the maps would end up
>> being
>> used for other products as well, such as educational wall maps or
>> desk
>> maps, our on-line digital map service, and in non-Rand McNally
>> atlases
>> or textbooks where we supply cartography only.
>>
>> I'm writing, then, to request permission to use the CRU CL 2.0 data
>> (http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/tmc.htm) for the preparation of
>> both
>> print and electronic versions of our climate maps, initially for the
>> 22nd edition of Goode's World Atlas but also for subsequent
>> editions of
>> the atlas, as well as for the other products I've described above.
>>
>> Since we are a commercial publisher, if arrangements need to be
>> made to
>> license the data, please let me know the details.
>>
>> If citation/attribution is required please let me know if any special
>> wording is required. Otherwise we will cite
>>
>> New, M., Lister, D., Hulme, M. and Makin, I., 2002: A high-resolution
>> data set of surface climate over global land areas. Climate Research
>> 21:1-25
>> (http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timm/grid/CRU_CL_2_0.html).
>>
>> Thank you for your efforts in advance.
>>
>> Howard
>>
>>
>> Howard Veregin, Ph.D.
>> Director, Geographic Information Services
>> Editor, Goode's World Atlas
>> Rand McNally
>> 8255 North Central Park Ave.
>> Skokie, IL 60076
>> hvereginatXYZxyzdmcnally.com
>> 847-329-6736
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark New [mailto:mark.new@ouce.ox.ac.uk]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:32 AM
>> To: Veregin, Howard
>> Subject: RE: Climate Normals Dataset
>>
>> Dear Howard,
>>
>> I think there would not be a problem using CRU data for maps - for
>> instance
>> they have been used in other publications / atlases, such as the
>> atlas
>> of
>> desertification.
>>
>> For oceans, you would have to rely on other sources - I suggest
>> one of
>> the
>> satellite products.
>>
>> If you do decide to use the CRU data, please contact Phil Jones at
>> CRU
>> (p.jones@uea.ac.uk) as he is the custodian of the data (I no
>> longer work
>> at
>> CRU, though am still involved in updating the data).
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Veregin, Howard [mailto:HVeregin@RandMcNally.com]
>> Sent: 22 June 2007 16:38
>> To: mark.newatXYZxyzg.ox.ac.uk
>> Subject: Climate Normals Dataset
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm interested in one of your global 10-minute datasets. Rand McNally
>> (the
>> company I work for) publishes a university atlas called Goode's World
>> Atlas,
>> for which I am the Editor. In preparation for a new edition coming
>> out
>> in
>> 2009 we are considering updating some of our global climate maps
>> showing
>> precipitation and temperature. The CRU CL 2.0 dataset seems like it
>> might
>> suit us quite well. However,
>>
>>
>>
>> (a) Since we are a commercial publisher, what sort of
>> arrangements
>> would
>> need to be made to license the data, assuming this is even possible?
>>
>> (b) Our current maps show temp and precip over oceans as well as
>> land.
>> Are there any plans to extend coverage of climate variables to oceans
>> for
>> the CRU CL datasets??
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>>
>>
>> Howard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Howard Veregin, PhD
>>
>> Director, GIS Operations
>>
>> Rand McNally & Co.
>>
>> Skokie, Illinois
>>
>> 847-329-6736
>>
>> hvereginatXYZxyzdmcnally.com
>>
>>
>>
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> Prof. Phil Jones
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> School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
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Ian "Harry" Harris
Climatic Research Unit
School of Environmental Sciences
University of East Anglia
Norwich NR4 7TJ
United Kingdom


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