date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:23:23 +0000
from: Clare Goodess <C.GoodessatXYZxyz.ac.uk>
subject: Fwd: RE: SCORCHIO and Tyndall projects
I've just tried to check how much of Colin's salary 17k would cover.
But I can't do this - as the DEFRA project accounts are one of
several that I can't access - I complained again about this before
going to Prague but have heard nothing. I'm not sure if you are able
to check this yourself on PMA - you may have the same problem as me.
Otherwise, we'll have to ask Janice I suppose.
Once we've decided how many months and when, we/I need to contact
We also need to confirm methodology with Jim - and give him
indication of timescale for 'delivery',
>Subject: RE: SCORCHIO and Tyndall projects
>Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:51:54 -0000
>Thread-Topic: SCORCHIO and Tyndall projects
>From: "Jim Hall" <jim.hallatXYZxyzcastle.ac.uk>
>To: "Clare Goodess" <C.GoodessatXYZxyz.ac.uk>, "Phil Jones" <p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk>
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>Dear Clare, Phil, Stuart, Hayley et al.
>Sorry it has taken me so long to get notes out from the meeting with
>Phil et al on 26 October. In this message I will try to summarise the
>methodology we are proposing and then address the timescale,
>responsibilities and financial matters for implementation for the
>Tyndall Cities work.
>The background to this work is:
>In the Scorchio project Stuart Barr is developing a method for obtaining
>spatial temperature patterns in urban areas from satellite data. Clare,
>Chris and Phil are extending the Betwixt weather generator and peturbing
>it with outputs from the new Had runs. We wish to combine the spatial
>and temporal perspectives in order generate spatial-temporal scenarios
>(the extent to which this needs to be developed in Scorchio is open to
>interpretation in the propsal).
>We wish to apply this same approach to London for Tyndall. We have an
>allocation of 17k in 07/08 and 17k in 08/09 for CRU to contribute to
>this work. We have plans to direct some RA time onto this in Newcastle
>for Stuart's area of the work (see below).
>The Hadley Centre runs:
>I just had a very useful conversation with Mark McCarthy at HC. His
>programme is as follows:
>Run 1: Transient run (1950 to 2100) A1B scenario with const
>anthropogenic heat source (7W/m2 for Manc). To be done "for Jan 08"...
>Vague about whether this would be beginning or end of Jan.
>Run 2: Same run with linearly increasing heat flux. Not yet specified
>what this will be, but representing quite a strong increase in heat
>flux. Could be run at about the same time as Run 1 i.e. Jan next year.
>Run 3: To be decided at a Scorchio stakeholder meeting in March. Could
>be midway between 1 and 2 i.e. some adaptation.
>The urban anthropogenic heat fluxes will be applied for all urban areas
>in the HadRM3 domain (i.e. we get London as well as Manc and Shef). He
>was originally intending to apply the Manc heat flux (i.e. 7W/m2) for
>all urban areas, but we discussed the possibility of applying something
>different (higher) for London and he agreed that this would be possible.
>In London the grid cells allow some differentiation between inner
>(Westminster has 60-100W/m2) and outer (about 10W/m2) London.
>The land surface tiling is based on 9 surface types, urban being one of
>He can save daily pressure data for weather type classification if
>He mentioned the LUCID work and was enthusiastic about the Tyndall
>application providing a comparison for London with the the LUCID outputs
>(on a 1km grid 100km*100km but can only be run for 1 year due to
>Outline of the proposed methodology:
>For present climate:
>Newcastle: Obtain AVHRR satellite images. Process to obtain temperature
>patterns for each satellite image.
>UEA: Obtain weather station data for London (Heathrow, St James,
>Holburn, and couple of outside London sites: Gatwick? Others?).
>Calibrate weather generator (with Chris K). Establish method for scaling
>Newcastle temperature patterns from selected weather station data.
>Cross-validate with other weather stations. Examine the improvement
>gained if the scaling relationship is conditioned on WG persistence
>variables (WW, WD, DW, DD). This will deliver hindcast spatial patterns
>of temperature (for comparison with any other observations that my
>become available through LUCID) and synthetic time series patterns of
>present day temperature.
>For future climate scenarios:
>We have three anthropogenic heat source scenarios from Hadley (runs 1 to
>3 above). Because the runs are transient and are based on the UKCIP08
>ensemble, for any desired climate scenario and time slice from the
>UKCIP08 ensemble we can match the non-urban temperatures to extract the
>corresponding time slice from these new urban runs (though we won't be
>able to access the highest climate changes even at 2100).
>UEA: Extract corresponding temperature change factors and other stats
>for WG from Had runs. Run WG and scale spatial temperature patterns as
>previously, conditioning as appropriate on persistence variables.
>Newcastle: Develop scenarios of changing land use and anthropogenic heat
>sources. Use these to modify temperature patterns used in the scenario
>Hope that makes sense.
>UEA: confirm funding arrangement with Virginia Brown. Tyndall Phase 2 is
>pre-FEC so the funds can all go to Colin's salary.
>UEA: confirm that methodology makes sense and confirm timescales for
>delivery, given Had proposed timescale for RCM runs (above).
>UEA: start assembling weather station data and calibrating weather
>Stuart: start assembling AVHRR images and processing temperatures
>Jim: email Mark McCarthy to confirm arrangements
>Jim: confirm UCL Lucid heat flux estimate for London (I'll see Mike
>Davies on 22 Nov)
>Is that all?
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Clare Goodess [mailto:C.Goodess@uea.ac.uk]
> > Sent: 01 November 2007 19:15
> > To: Jim Hall
> > Subject: Fwd: SCORCHIO and Tyndall projects
> > Hi Jim
> > Phil, Colin and I met today to discuss the Tyndall urban work
> > - and it sounds like you had a useful meeting with Phil last week.
> > One thing that emerged from our meeting today, is how to
> > handle the financial aspects. Is the money earmarked for us
> > in the Newcastle budget? Will this be a subcontract?
> > Presumably it will be full economic costs, but hopefully we
> > can ensure that the bulk goes on Colin's salary rather than
> > having to cost in Phil's time.
> > Is it Virginia Brown we need to liase with here?
> > Best wishes, Clare
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> > >From: Phil Jones <p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk>
> > >Subject: SCORCHIO and Tyndall projects
> > >
> > > Clare,
> > > The attached is a summary of discussions I had with Jim
> > Hall and
> > > others last Friday in Newcastle.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Phil
> > >
> > >
> > >Prof. Phil Jones
> > >Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
> > >School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
> > >University of East Anglia
> > >Norwich Email p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk
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> > >UK
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> > >
> > >
> > Dr Clare Goodess
> > Climatic Research Unit
> > School of Environmental Sciences
> > University of East Anglia
> > Norwich
> > NR4 7TJ
> > UK
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> > Fax: +44 -1603 507784
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Dr Clare Goodess
Climatic Research Unit
School of Environmental Sciences
University of East Anglia
Tel: +44 -1603 592875
Fax: +44 -1603 507784