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date: Mon Sep 6 15:27:56 2004
from: Phil Jones <p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk>
subject: RE: GLOBAL OR NORTHERN HEMISPHERE TEMPERATURES IN HOLOCENE
to: "Folland, Chris" <chris.follandatXYZxyzoffice.com>

Chris,
It is ! When you have a long train/plane journey ! Bellamy should read it on his way
home -
better before he arrives !
Is talking to him an HC initiative? ENV here at UEA is trying to get him to come at some
stage
wrt wind turbines, which he's dead against. He may have a point re their cost etc, but
he's shooting
himself in the foot going for the science. He just ends up showing how little he knows.

Cheers
Phil
PS I'll bring some hard copy reprints to Tarragona
At 15:15 06/09/2004, you wrote:

Phil

Thanks very much. Your review paper looks well worth a read!

Chris


Professor Chris Folland
Head of Climate Variability Research
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Also: Hon. Professor of Dept of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Jones [[2]mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk]
Sent: 06 September 2004 14:18
To: Folland, Chris
Subject: Re: GLOBAL OR NORTHERN HEMISPHERE TEMPERATURES IN HOLOCENE
Chris,
Paleo reconstructions is just to AD 200. What we have said is that the late
20th century
is the warmest period in the last 2000 years, so stretching it a bit back to AD 1.
Late 20th
century is a bit loose, but I take it to be the 1980s and 1990s. I'm attaching a
paper from
Reviews of Geophysics. Maybe you can persuade David Bellamy to read it ! Maybe you
won't
get a word in edgeways ! I hope he listens. When I've heard him on the radio/TV and
seen his
rantings in the Daily Mail, he goes on about the hockey stick - says it's defunct
and the main
protagonists have withdrawn it. He thinks I'm one of these, but I'm not. He just
parrots what
some of the skeptic web sites in the US say. Tell him he should read the real
peer-review
climate literature ! Also attaching the GRL paper with the AD 200 series in.
Good luck ! Let me know how you get on - Tarragona will do !
Phil
PS I reckon that you would have to go back to about 3500BC to find a warmer period.
So many
of the very long series are poorly dated (decadal or less resolution), regionally
biased and
also very summer dependent.
At 13:11 06/09/2004, you wrote:

Phil
Am I correct in stating that there is no such global or NH reconstruction
(especially with error bars) before 200AD? Geff Jenkins thinks you have published a
statement saying the 1990s were the warmest decade in the last 10000 years. So he
may think there is a curve back to 8000BC. I am not aware of this but might have
missed it. We expect to entertain David Bellamy on Thursday, hence the concerns.
Thanks
Chris
Professor Chris Folland
Head of Climate Variability Research
NOTE NEW EMAIL AND WEB ADDRESS
Met Office, Hadley Centre, Fitzroy Rd, Exeter, Devon EX1 3PB United Kingdom
Email: chris.follandatXYZxyzoffice.gov.uk
Tel: +44 (0)1392 886646
Fax: (in UK) 0870 900 5050
(International) +44 (0)113 336 1072)<[3]http://www.metoffice.gov.uk
Also: Hon. Professor of Dept of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia
Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk
NR4 7TJ
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Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jonesatXYZxyz.ac.uk
NR4 7TJ
UK
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